Raghwa Gopal

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A serial entrepreneur with extensive experience starting, growing & selling businesses, Raghwa Gopal is one of the most recognizable...
Key takeaways
- Hard work and perseverance are the most essential ingredients for entrepreneurial success, more important than intelligence or having a great idea alone.
- Building a thriving tech ecosystem requires collaboration rather than siloed approaches, with organizations working together holistically to support entrepreneurs and businesses.
- Always maintain a mentor relationship with someone you can connect with, talk to, and run ideas by throughout your entrepreneurial journey.
- British Columbia is positioning itself to become a world leader in life sciences, artificial intelligence, and clean tech over the next decade, with 8 of Canada's top 13 clean tech companies already based in the province.
- Entrepreneurs need to adapt now to managing distributed workforces, as the future of work will be completely distributed with teams rarely meeting in person.
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[00:42] SPEAKER_02: Hello everyone, I'm Angela Faye, hub builder and co-host of British Columbia's podcast. [00:48] SPEAKER_02: Part of the Canada's podcast network, your source for great insights from entrepreneurs [00:53] SPEAKER_02: from across Canada. [00:54] SPEAKER_02: We talked entrepreneurs who are making it happen here so you can listen, discover and engage. [01:00] SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Canada's podcast today. [01:02] SPEAKER_01: I am speaking to Ragwag Gopell, one of the most recognizable names in the British Columbia [01:07] SPEAKER_01: tech sector. [01:08] SPEAKER_01: Some people don't know this yet, but he's a serial entrepreneur who has extensive experience [01:13] SPEAKER_01: growing and selling businesses. [01:16] SPEAKER_01: Ragwag was instrumental in the creation and management of successful programs for technology [01:21] SPEAKER_01: companies at all stages of growth and the driving force behind the development of the Okanagan's [01:26] SPEAKER_01: tech sector into 1.6 billion economic contributor. [01:31] SPEAKER_01: Obviously, some self-specific experience because he's a graduate in New Zealand Central Institute [01:35] SPEAKER_01: of Technology and Information Technology. [01:38] SPEAKER_01: And Ragwag has also received degrees in computer science from Australia's Collier McMillan [01:43] SPEAKER_01: School and the University of the South Pacific. [01:45] SPEAKER_01: Bring a little bit more closer to home. [01:47] SPEAKER_01: He's also been an entrepreneur of residents at Okanagan College School of Business and [01:52] SPEAKER_01: serves on the boards of multiple organizations, including the University of British Columbia, [01:57] SPEAKER_01: India, Canada Innovation Council, Women's Enterprise Center, the Central Okanagan Economic [02:04] SPEAKER_01: Development and the Province of BC's Emerging Economy Task Force. [02:09] SPEAKER_01: So wow, awesome. [02:10] SPEAKER_01: We're so excited to have you, Ragwag. [02:12] SPEAKER_03: Thank you. [02:12] SPEAKER_03: Good morning and I'm very happy to be here. [02:15] SPEAKER_01: One of our kids is at Canada's podcast is get to know entrepreneurs from across Canada [02:20] SPEAKER_01: and we're pleased to have you. [02:22] SPEAKER_01: But if one of the things that we know people want to hear about is a little bit more about [02:26] SPEAKER_01: you personally. [02:27] SPEAKER_01: So give us an idea, Ragwag, what kind of gets you kick started in the morning and what [02:33] SPEAKER_01: is the thing that sort of juices you every morning? [02:37] SPEAKER_03: You know, just the fact that when I started my own business as a very young entrepreneur [02:43] SPEAKER_03: at the age of 20 with almost no resources and support and having to grow their business [02:50] SPEAKER_03: almost saying 100ly with my business partner, what I realized when I got to a point where [02:57] SPEAKER_03: I could do it back, this has become a passion for me to go all day every day and try and [03:04] SPEAKER_03: help that type of entrepreneur that I was 41 years ago. [03:08] SPEAKER_03: We have at least an opportunity to get the business up the ground in a much, hopefully [03:15] SPEAKER_03: much easier way. [03:16] SPEAKER_03: So that's the passion that what kind of gets me up every day and I'm looking forward [03:20] SPEAKER_03: to going to the office and hopefully getting some opportunity to talk to a few of these [03:25] SPEAKER_03: individuals but most of trying to find the right kind of resources and connections for [03:31] SPEAKER_03: them to help out. [03:32] SPEAKER_01: Very good. [03:33] SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk a little bit about NFAPC a little bit later but you are a recent [03:38] SPEAKER_01: recently moved to Vancouver, right from the Okaname? [03:42] SPEAKER_03: That's true, yeah. [03:42] SPEAKER_03: So I moved to Klona in the Okaname area about 41 years ago from Fiji as a young immigrant. [03:52] SPEAKER_03: So I've been there for 41 years, grew up in business and I'll arrange my family over [03:58] SPEAKER_03: there and in six months ago I was lucky enough to be hired as the president and CEO of 8BC [04:06] SPEAKER_03: which made me move to Vancouver. [04:10] SPEAKER_03: So I'm very happy to be now moved from one of the best places to live in the world to almost [04:17] SPEAKER_03: you know, the second or almost equally the best place to live in British Columbia and [04:21] SPEAKER_03: the world as well. [04:22] SPEAKER_03: So I feel myself very, very lucky. [04:25] SPEAKER_01: Absolutely. [04:26] SPEAKER_01: Now I just got to go back to that initial question. [04:29] SPEAKER_01: 41 years ago when you immigrated from Fiji, what was the attraction to Canada? [04:33] SPEAKER_03: A couple of things. [04:34] SPEAKER_03: You know, born raised and educated in Fiji and happened to take computer science as my [04:42] SPEAKER_03: education because I was just kind of a little bit sort of left out of the norm thinking. [04:49] SPEAKER_03: It was very new and I thought, okay, I'll just write it out. [04:51] SPEAKER_03: So I got that education but there was really no opportunities back home in that specific [04:59] SPEAKER_03: area at that time. [05:01] SPEAKER_03: My brother was in Colona and he said, if you want to come to Canada I'm pretty sure based [05:06] SPEAKER_03: on your computer science education then background you'll have a much better chance of building [05:12] SPEAKER_03: a career. [05:13] SPEAKER_03: So that was the attraction. [05:15] SPEAKER_01: Fast forward 40 years to today. [05:18] SPEAKER_01: If you were to give advice to immigrants that we're looking at Canada as a possible relocation [05:23] SPEAKER_01: destination, what would you say with a, you know, who would thrive here? [05:28] SPEAKER_03: You know, anybody that has a good work effect, you know, has a little bit of a, you know, [05:34] SPEAKER_03: professional background, this is a country of opportunity. [05:38] SPEAKER_03: This is a country that gives opportunity for everybody. [05:42] SPEAKER_03: Amazing, friendly people that are willing to help you get where you want to go. [05:47] SPEAKER_03: So I don't think there's any other country in the world like Canada that embraces and [05:52] SPEAKER_03: helps immigrants or anybody, any new commas to this country. [05:58] SPEAKER_03: So I was very, very lucky that I got that opportunity to come to this amazing country. [06:03] SPEAKER_01: Fantastic. [06:04] SPEAKER_01: Now, obviously you are a mentor for many, many people but is there anybody that you can [06:09] SPEAKER_01: cite who is a mentor for you? [06:12] SPEAKER_03: You know, I was very lucky in my life. [06:14] SPEAKER_03: There's two or three individuals that, you know, groomed me. [06:18] SPEAKER_03: I was my mentor. [06:19] SPEAKER_03: I always looked upon them. [06:20] SPEAKER_03: I always reached out to them. [06:22] SPEAKER_03: And I continually do. [06:24] SPEAKER_03: So, you know, my first business partner in Colona, when I arrived, 41 years ago, [06:29] SPEAKER_03: I didn't know him from anything, just, you know, met by chance, you know, became the co-founders [06:35] SPEAKER_03: of the first software company in Colona. [06:39] SPEAKER_03: And grew their business so let, and they've done a lot of business together. [06:44] SPEAKER_03: And he continues to be my lifelong friend, but my mentor, amazing individual. [06:49] SPEAKER_03: His name is Mike Schleppey. [06:50] SPEAKER_03: He is a CPA by Trade. [06:53] SPEAKER_03: Amazing experience, but just a great human being that gives out so freely. [06:59] SPEAKER_03: And I think that why or how I've sort of kind of molded my life to be out there and trying [07:06] SPEAKER_03: to help people. [07:07] SPEAKER_01: Very good. [07:08] SPEAKER_01: It's a very local home. [07:09] SPEAKER_01: Is there anybody on a global scale that you kind of, you know, listen to as far as their [07:14] SPEAKER_01: advice or sort of great things or great stories on a global scale? [07:20] SPEAKER_03: You know, I was saying 35, 40 years ago when I was doubling into the space growing my software [07:27] SPEAKER_03: company, Microsoft, you know, Bill Gates, who was sort of the idol and that kind of became [07:33] SPEAKER_03: somebody that I followed very, very closely and followed what he was doing. [07:39] SPEAKER_03: And I continue to do so even now, all these philanthropic work. [07:43] SPEAKER_03: So I'm kind of myself in a very small scale involved as well. [07:47] SPEAKER_03: So I kind of look up to somebody like that just to kind of get a little bit of, you know, [07:53] SPEAKER_03: passion or I think in light sort of, you know, my interest and thought. [07:58] SPEAKER_03: So yeah, he's definitely one that I follow quite closely. [08:02] SPEAKER_01: Fantastic. [08:02] SPEAKER_01: I want to talk a little bit about the communities that you work because you've just recently, [08:06] SPEAKER_01: you were so ingrained in Kelowna now you're in Vancouver. [08:09] SPEAKER_01: I'm going to take advantage of the opportunity to talk about both communities. [08:13] SPEAKER_01: Can you give me a sense of the vibe in Kelowna kind of culture of that particular community? [08:20] SPEAKER_03: Yeah. [08:21] SPEAKER_03: So, you know, it's a very interesting question because when I arrived, you know, 40, some 41 years ago, [08:26] SPEAKER_03: it was a people who get mad at me when I said this, but a fairly sleepy town, you know, [08:32] SPEAKER_03: the top, you know, when everybody that I talked to, then the few years that I was traveling [08:36] SPEAKER_03: for my business, when I mentioned Kelowna, like they say, kind of look at me like you kind [08:40] SPEAKER_03: of crazy having a software company in Kelowna number one. [08:43] SPEAKER_03: Secondly, they all were talking about the retirees moving there. [08:47] SPEAKER_03: That was sort of the talk generally. [08:51] SPEAKER_03: Well, today it's a very thriving tech sector. [08:55] SPEAKER_03: Roughly around 800 companies, about 14,000 people working in the innovation and tech space. [09:04] SPEAKER_03: And about $1.7 billion of economic contributor through the region, which is far more than [09:10] SPEAKER_03: tourism and agriculture combined, which over the last 100 years said we've culture and tourism [09:15] SPEAKER_03: has been the bed bread and butter of that of the region. [09:18] SPEAKER_03: So, it's a very vibrant community, a lot of innovation happening. [09:23] SPEAKER_03: It's a calendar buzzing right now. [09:26] SPEAKER_01: What do you think are the key pillars that were instrumental in building it up? [09:32] SPEAKER_01: I'm going to jump to the word ecosystem because we've talked about that previously, but [09:36] SPEAKER_01: what were the essential pieces that have evolved and changed and added to the community [09:41] SPEAKER_01: that worked there 40 years ago when it was Sleepy Hicksville? [09:46] SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and again, it's a very good question. [09:48] SPEAKER_03: It's a great model. [09:49] SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you look at it, it's individuals. [09:51] SPEAKER_03: So, what happened is 15 years ago, roughly, you know, probably started earlier than that, [09:57] SPEAKER_03: but mainly over the last 15 years and most over the last 10 years, individuals basically [10:02] SPEAKER_03: came together from different organizations and just said, hey, what can we do to elevate [10:07] SPEAKER_03: this place, make this place a no place to come in and start your business and how can we [10:13] SPEAKER_03: support that? [10:14] SPEAKER_03: So, that collaboration started to happen and over the last 10 years, we'll see every individual [10:21] SPEAKER_03: that can contribute to the ecosystem, but also every organization, whether it's the tourism [10:27] SPEAKER_03: calona, with the city of calona, whether the economic development commission, community [10:32] SPEAKER_03: features, Accelerator, Opanagan, which is Accelerator, Intubator, in town, the co-working spaces, [10:39] SPEAKER_03: women's enterprise center, that's based over there. [10:41] SPEAKER_03: All of these organizations started to kind of look at into a more holistic approach instead [10:47] SPEAKER_03: of very siloed approach. [10:48] SPEAKER_03: A lot of cities and towns have that all the individual organizations have very siloed [10:55] SPEAKER_03: approach. [10:55] SPEAKER_03: They kind of do their own thing. [10:56] SPEAKER_03: In calona, everybody is kind of come together and say, how can we collectively make this place [11:02] SPEAKER_03: a better place for people to live and businesses to thrive? [11:06] SPEAKER_03: So, I think that thinking, that process, I don't know how it came about, but they were [11:10] SPEAKER_03: a number of community leaders that kind of said, hey, let's try this and they became a great [11:16] SPEAKER_03: model. [11:17] SPEAKER_03: So, today, if you're coming to calona and you're connecting with one individual or one [11:22] SPEAKER_03: organization, you'll get connected to everybody, which is an amazing thing that happens over [11:29] SPEAKER_03: there that I don't see happening in too many other places of their size. [11:34] SPEAKER_01: Fantastic. [11:35] SPEAKER_01: Do you have a favorite spot in calona, a beach or coffee shop at restaurants? [11:41] SPEAKER_03: You know, the new innovations center right downtown. [11:43] SPEAKER_03: For me, that's about, no matter what I do way I go, I always find, you know, they are [11:49] SPEAKER_03: going to meet whether it's in the coffee shop or in the incubator, so that's my favorite [11:55] SPEAKER_03: spot. [11:55] SPEAKER_01: Awesome. [11:56] SPEAKER_01: Let's jump to Vancouver now. [11:58] SPEAKER_01: Have you lived in Vancouver before or is this the first time? [12:01] SPEAKER_03: First time kind of living here, but being in calona, Vancouver, you know, one of the most [12:07] SPEAKER_03: beautiful cities in the world. [12:09] SPEAKER_03: So, I try to come here as often as I can. [12:12] SPEAKER_03: So, mainly to visit and one of business meetings and stuff, but not to live. [12:17] SPEAKER_03: So, this is sort of my first, first place. [12:20] Speaker UNKNOWN: [12:21] SPEAKER_01: And so, again, how about we ask that question again? [12:24] SPEAKER_01: What differentiates the culture, for instance, between calona and Vancouver? [12:28] SPEAKER_01: How would you describe Vancouver's vibe? [12:31] SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, I'm so excited about the vibe that's here. [12:36] SPEAKER_03: You know, there's news of, every day, you know, new companies, you know, brick brand, [12:41] SPEAKER_03: world-renowned companies like Amazon, sending up shop in a big scale, you know, Microsoft [12:48] SPEAKER_03: you know, roaming. [12:49] SPEAKER_03: So, this is exciting news every day. [12:52] SPEAKER_03: You know, new investments coming in yesterday, a clear local company. [12:57] SPEAKER_03: I got $250 million US of investment in the business, which is like, I think, the largest [13:04] SPEAKER_03: investment that a Canadian company or British Columbia company has had. [13:08] SPEAKER_03: Like, every day, there's something new, something big that's coming. [13:12] SPEAKER_03: And I just see a huge potential over the next 10 years. [13:15] SPEAKER_03: I think Vancouver will be positioned very, very well as a tech hub, as a innovation hub, [13:24] SPEAKER_03: as the place to be. [13:27] SPEAKER_01: We, you know, we have a traditionally or historically a brand supernatural British Columbia. [13:32] SPEAKER_01: You know, there's lots of places that are kind of jumping on, you know, supporting tech. [13:37] SPEAKER_01: Do you, what's your vision for the next 10 years? [13:41] SPEAKER_01: Because I got to say, I didn't create one for Cologne, it kind of happens. [13:45] SPEAKER_01: So if you can dig into, that was vision for the next 10 years. [13:49] SPEAKER_01: What would be the niche for Vancouver? [13:51] SPEAKER_03: Well, there's a lot of things going to, you know, bubbling up and we're taking a lead on, [13:57] SPEAKER_03: I think, in life sciences, Vancouver is always, you know, played a pretty integral role. [14:04] SPEAKER_03: And I think we can elevate that to a world-level where we become the leading world-excellent [14:10] SPEAKER_03: center for life sciences, artificial intelligence. [14:14] SPEAKER_03: I think this is AI is growing here. [14:17] SPEAKER_03: Brickley, there's some great companies here. [14:20] SPEAKER_03: More companies are looking, studying to look at Vancouver as the place to be. [14:24] SPEAKER_03: Because once you create a little bit of cluster and resources and all the companies want to, [14:29] SPEAKER_03: you know, be part of the cluster. [14:30] SPEAKER_03: And I think that's going to grow. [14:33] SPEAKER_03: And I have very much confidence that we will become one of the world's leading AI centers. [14:38] SPEAKER_03: You know, AI and VR gaming has always been a strength, so that will continue to grow. [14:44] SPEAKER_03: But one area that we are really taking a lead, very, very fastly, is in clean tech and sustainable. [14:51] SPEAKER_03: Out of the world's top 100 clean tech companies, [14:56] SPEAKER_03: 13 of them are based in Canada and out of that, 8 are based in British Columbia. [15:00] SPEAKER_03: So definitely we're leaders in that already. [15:03] Speaker UNKNOWN: We stick in. [15:04] SPEAKER_03: And we want to, we don't want to sit on our laurels. [15:09] SPEAKER_03: That we want to make sure that we continue to take a larger piece of that high and continue to grow [15:16] SPEAKER_03: and become the place to be in terms of clean tech, sustainable companies, resources, [15:23] SPEAKER_03: right here in British Columbia. [15:26] SPEAKER_01: Well, in fantastic segue, straight into now your CEO of InnovateBC. [15:31] SPEAKER_01: Tell us about the work that you do there. [15:33] SPEAKER_01: And I appreciate you've only been in the role for a short time. [15:36] SPEAKER_01: But we've got three fantastic visions, become a world excellence center for life sciences, clean tech and AI. [15:42] SPEAKER_01: How can InnovateBC help? [15:45] SPEAKER_03: So our mandate is to help support and and celebrate innovation in British Columbia, [15:50] SPEAKER_03: in all the regions of British Columbia, in all sectors. [15:54] SPEAKER_03: And the way we do it, it's pretty simple. [15:58] SPEAKER_03: We take BC innovators and we support them by connecting them to funding and our resources. [16:05] SPEAKER_03: And any other type of support that these innovators need. [16:09] SPEAKER_03: So mentorship is a big part that we play. [16:13] SPEAKER_03: We have in our BC acceleration network. [16:16] SPEAKER_03: We have dozen agencies around the province that provide mentorship [16:21] SPEAKER_03: to any new entrepreneur or business or entrepreneurs that are already in business. [16:28] SPEAKER_03: But they need some help, some mentorships. [16:30] SPEAKER_03: We provide that. [16:32] SPEAKER_03: These are mentors that have done very, very well, have great experiences, [16:38] SPEAKER_03: started in build businesses and have a huge role next. [16:42] SPEAKER_03: And they continue to work with a lot of companies. [16:45] SPEAKER_03: So they're fairly current and with the current trends, [16:48] SPEAKER_03: what's happening in the region, but we're wide. [16:52] SPEAKER_03: So these mentors sit down and help the burden on the premise. [16:57] SPEAKER_03: So that's what we provide right now in a nutshell. [17:00] SPEAKER_03: But this is a multitude of programs and funding that we provide as well. [17:06] SPEAKER_01: I've had the privilege of interviewing some pretty dynamic entrepreneurs that maybe aren't based [17:12] SPEAKER_01: in Vancouver, but are based right around the province. [17:15] SPEAKER_01: Do you have any strategies coming or what's the best way for somebody who might be based in [17:20] SPEAKER_01: Tafino or Prince George or an Enimo to connect with NFAPC? [17:26] SPEAKER_03: It's very simple. [17:28] SPEAKER_03: In all parts of the province, we have our network partners. [17:32] SPEAKER_03: So in Enimo, we have Innovation Island. [17:35] SPEAKER_03: So they, most of the time, any somebody in that region will connect directly with them. [17:40] SPEAKER_03: And our partners will start to provide them with the support and mentorship that they need. [17:46] SPEAKER_03: They are some regions. [17:47] SPEAKER_03: So we have partners in southern British Columbia, in Kutney's, [17:51] SPEAKER_03: in the central in Kalona, the Camelot Prince George, [17:55] SPEAKER_03: in North and a lot here in British Columbia and Lower Mainland as well. [18:00] SPEAKER_03: So most of the time, anybody's wanting or thinking of studying a business will connect with them. [18:06] SPEAKER_01: Something we can do later is just kind of list who your partners are and will provide that as [18:10] SPEAKER_01: part of our information post today's interview. [18:13] SPEAKER_01: Has that absolutely. [18:14] Speaker UNKNOWN: [18:14] SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're very happy to do that. [18:16] SPEAKER_03: If they can't find them, it's, you know, we're very happy to, they can connect directly with [18:23] SPEAKER_03: NFAPC and we'll find a partner for them to be able to help them out. [18:27] SPEAKER_01: Now, just a little bit of fun, Ragua, if you weren't to see you, I'll benefit B.C. [18:33] SPEAKER_01: What other career choice or job or I'm guessing entrepreneur, so would you? [18:39] SPEAKER_01: That's always been on the back burner that you would love to pursue. [18:42] SPEAKER_03: Wow, that's a very interesting question. [18:45] SPEAKER_03: I would be CEO of a non-profit society that would be helping, you know, [18:53] SPEAKER_03: mentor the students or new and young entrepreneurs. [18:58] SPEAKER_03: Fantastic. [18:59] SPEAKER_01: A little bit of fun now. [19:00] SPEAKER_01: We're just going to do some rapid-fire questions so that we get to know kind of what makes you [19:05] SPEAKER_01: tick and some resources that are in your mind that we can share with our listeners. [19:09] SPEAKER_01: First of all, is there an essential book on your shelf that you think all entrepreneurs should [19:15] SPEAKER_01: rate? [19:17] SPEAKER_03: Good to great is a very nice book that has a lot of learnings. [19:20] SPEAKER_03: It's a great fusion. [19:22] SPEAKER_01: And are there any skills that you think a younger entrepreneur needs to have that there may [19:29] SPEAKER_01: be being taught now, but that we redundant and about to hinder something that we can sort of [19:34] SPEAKER_01: avoid. And equally, what is a new skill that you think everybody should pick up that will be [19:40] SPEAKER_01: essential over the lifetime of their career? [19:43] SPEAKER_03: I think the way, you know, we manage people and where the people will be working in any given [19:50] SPEAKER_03: business, I think that mindset needs to change. We are so set on, you know, having people around [19:55] SPEAKER_03: or a little bit of kind of out of office, but 10 years from now, it will be totally distributed [20:00] SPEAKER_03: and you'll never see people, but you need to be able to adapt to manage and work in that particular [20:06] SPEAKER_03: environment. So if people start to think about that and start to learn about that and adapt [20:12] SPEAKER_03: slowly over the next few years, I think they'll have a much better time as opposed to sort of [20:17] SPEAKER_03: having a cutoff and say, Polica, what has happened? How do I adapt to the new ways? [20:23] SPEAKER_01: Is there an essential conference? [20:27] SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to pick on BC first that you believe is a great resource for people to attend. [20:34] SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, I couldn't say anything other than BC Tech Summit that we hold. You know, it's [20:43] SPEAKER_03: a pretty general broad conference that brings students, brings a lot of entrepreneurs, [20:52] SPEAKER_03: brings a lot of investors and brings a lot of international eyes and people in into British Columbia. [20:58] SPEAKER_03: So that's a very good one. If you want to come and meet a lot of people, go all at one place [21:03] SPEAKER_03: in very, very different sectors, etc. That would be the place to be. [21:11] SPEAKER_01: How about on a national scale? Can you think of a conference that if you're looking at doing [21:15] SPEAKER_01: business in Canada, what conference would be fantastic to go and meet a lot of people at the same time? [21:22] SPEAKER_03: Well, there are a lot of very focused conferences for different types of businesses, so depending [21:29] SPEAKER_03: on what you're business are. But if you're really looking at a place to go and meet a lot of people, [21:35] SPEAKER_03: and a collision in Toronto is one that's massive. And what I find is you'll be able to [21:41] SPEAKER_03: over the course of three or four days probably meet with everybody that you would want to meet, [21:48] SPEAKER_03: not just nationally but internationally as well, because they draw a pretty decent crowd that [21:56] SPEAKER_03: most of the people that you'd want to do business with or want to meet with, you'll be able to [22:00] SPEAKER_03: meet all at one place. So that would be a very good one. Can you think of a particular, if it was [22:07] SPEAKER_01: somebody moving to Vancouver? Now that we're jumping back to Vancouver, can you think of an [22:11] SPEAKER_01: essential networking group that somebody could actually physically go out and meet people in person? [22:17] SPEAKER_03: I'm feeling new here, so I'm still starting to find out who all the groups are, but there are [22:22] SPEAKER_03: a number of meet-up groups, depending on, I mean if they are in sort of technology, there's a [22:27] SPEAKER_03: tech meet-up group, the name escapes him, but I'll definitely be able to provide that. [22:33] SPEAKER_03: So there's a number of the meet-up groups, if you're sorry, they were to google that, [22:37] SPEAKER_03: they should be able to find the right one for the type of things that they're looking for. [22:44] SPEAKER_01: Do you have an inspirational quote on your desk or on your wall that you can share? [22:51] SPEAKER_03: You know, I've also had a great opportunity to mentor a lot of students at [23:00] SPEAKER_03: Okenagon College and University of British Columbia, and a lot of new entrepreneurs in the Okenagon [23:07] SPEAKER_03: region. So one thing that I keep telling them is that he can be smart, you can be doing a lot of [23:15] SPEAKER_03: other things, but the one thing that you always need to keep in mind is you're growing your business, [23:20] SPEAKER_03: nothing beats hard work. So just keep that in mind because that's the key ingredient that you need [23:26] SPEAKER_03: to keep front-end center, whether that's what's going to make you successful. A lot of people come [23:30] SPEAKER_03: in and say, I'm very smart, I've got this great idea, and things will just happen, but it's that hard [23:35] SPEAKER_03: work, it's the perseverance, just to making sure that you stick with it no matter what's going [23:41] SPEAKER_03: wrong or the kind of day that you're having just perseverance, you know, be coming back, and if [23:47] SPEAKER_03: you believe in something, just stick to it. And the other one is I was always having a mentor, [23:53] SPEAKER_03: always have them one person that you can always connect with, talk to, and run things by. [24:00] SPEAKER_01: Robert, this is always a fun question for the Canada podcast crew. If you were stuck on a deserted [24:05] SPEAKER_01: island, and now having grown up on the Fiji Nile, you're probably quite after this, but a tiny little [24:11] SPEAKER_01: remote one that had no technology, luckily it had one phone booth where you could make a call at [24:16] SPEAKER_01: some point. How long would you last on a remote desert island, and what would you do there? [24:24] SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think I probably could last a long time. I know the solitude actually would [24:32] SPEAKER_03: be, you know, I would find that it has a positive thing as a positive thing, so I think I could last [24:41] SPEAKER_03: there for a long time. I would not even use that phone booth to make the phone call, I just [24:45] SPEAKER_03: I'd just go in the bushes and start to figure out where the the foods are, so I can have that [24:52] SPEAKER_03: over the next few weeks, so few months, I was like, when don't play now do I get out of this? [24:56] SPEAKER_01: I love it. It's more likely that somebody's going to go, where are they? We got to go get them [25:01] SPEAKER_01: before you ever make the call. Yeah. It's like, what is the best way to for people to get a hold of [25:07] SPEAKER_03: you post podcasts? Best ways to from our website, or just can email me. [25:14] SPEAKER_01: Okay, and what's your email address? Let's just write that down quick. [25:17] SPEAKER_01: I'm Bo Powell at innovatebc.ca. Okay, we'll put that in the on the vlog later. With [25:24] SPEAKER_01: it's been an absolute pleasure having you on Canada's podcast. We're so excited you were able to [25:28] SPEAKER_01: join us. Is there any last sentiment you'd love to leave that we haven't covered yet? [25:32] SPEAKER_03: First of all, thank you for having me and the only thing that I would want to maybe conclude with is, [25:39] SPEAKER_03: you know, we are living in the best part of the world and the opportunity is endless and we will [25:44] SPEAKER_03: make Vancouver and British Columbia a world leader in tech and innovation over the next 10 years. [25:50] SPEAKER_03: That's a promise. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. [25:55] SPEAKER_02: Hey there. Thanks for taking the time today to listen to British Columbia's podcast on the Canada's [26:01] SPEAKER_02: podcast network. We hope you enjoyed the show today. Make sure you sign up for our newsletters [26:05] SPEAKER_02: and write a review for us on iTunes. Connect with us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, [26:12] SPEAKER_02: or at Canada'spodcast.com. You can check out what other entrepreneurs are doing across the country. [26:18] SPEAKER_02: I'm Angela Faye. See you next time.
