A passion for the future of health care

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[00:00] SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Canada's podcast.
[00:05] SPEAKER_01: Hello, I'm Mario Tonigus,
[00:07] SPEAKER_01: a managing editor of Canada's podcast.
[00:09] SPEAKER_01: Joining me today on Calgary's podcast is Dr. Enmol Kapoor,
[00:14] SPEAKER_01: who is founder and CEO of BioAero.
[00:18] SPEAKER_01: Thanks for joining us today, Dr.
[00:20] SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for having me, Mario.
[00:23] SPEAKER_01: All right, let's talk a little bit about BioAero.
[00:26] SPEAKER_01: Tell me what it is and what you guys do.
[00:28] SPEAKER_02: Well, BioAero is a wonderful kind,
[00:30] SPEAKER_02: the company is a global company.
[00:32] SPEAKER_02: It has four different verticals.
[00:35] SPEAKER_02: What it does specialize in,
[00:37] SPEAKER_02: especially is in precision health.
[00:39] SPEAKER_02: So far, the health care has been a hit and trial approach.
[00:43] SPEAKER_02: So me as a cardiologist, practicing cardiose in Canada,
[00:46] SPEAKER_02: often we don't know if a person may respond to an aspirin,
[00:50] SPEAKER_02: if they're having a response to a statin,
[00:54] SPEAKER_02: and if the medication we're giving,
[00:55] SPEAKER_02: otherwise medication and the right dosage is.
[00:58] SPEAKER_02: Or sometimes we don't even know why some people develop
[01:02] SPEAKER_02: a heart disease prematurely,
[01:04] SPEAKER_02: and why some people develop a heart failure without having any blockages.
[01:09] SPEAKER_02: Many times we call them as a idiopathic.
[01:11] SPEAKER_02: We have no idea.
[01:12] SPEAKER_02: So I call it doctor,
[01:14] SPEAKER_02: it's an idiot and patient pathatic,
[01:15] SPEAKER_02: we just don't know sometimes.
[01:17] SPEAKER_02: So that's the puzzle,
[01:18] SPEAKER_02: the piece of the puzzle,
[01:19] SPEAKER_02: when we never knew why the problem happened,
[01:22] SPEAKER_02: we call it an autoimmune,
[01:25] SPEAKER_02: or we call it idiopathic,
[01:27] SPEAKER_02: we solved that problem.
[01:29] SPEAKER_02: So we uncovered the secrets from your DNA,
[01:32] SPEAKER_02: secrets from your microbiome,
[01:33] SPEAKER_02: and we secreted some,
[01:35] SPEAKER_02: your various metabolic pathway,
[01:39] SPEAKER_02: could be proteins, could be hormones,
[01:41] SPEAKER_02: and understand why you have the disease,
[01:45] SPEAKER_02: what could be coming next,
[01:47] SPEAKER_02: and how we can help you live longer,
[01:50] SPEAKER_02: or perhaps have a healthier life.
[01:52] SPEAKER_02: So we have a lab to help solve the problem,
[01:55] SPEAKER_02: then we have a software solution,
[01:58] SPEAKER_02: we have a technology company,
[02:00] SPEAKER_02: biotech company,
[02:00] SPEAKER_02: and then we have a clinical side,
[02:03] SPEAKER_02: and the clinic we have is in Calgary,
[02:05] SPEAKER_02: then we are looking to launch our clinic in Dubai,
[02:08] SPEAKER_02: UAE, that would be the worst, first,
[02:11] SPEAKER_02: a precision health and longevity clinic,
[02:13] SPEAKER_02: to help people live longer,
[02:16] SPEAKER_02: and find ways to stay healthier longer.
[02:19] SPEAKER_02: Tell me how you got into this.
[02:23] SPEAKER_02: Well, the common problem was,
[02:24] SPEAKER_02: always patient coming to me, Dr. Kupur,
[02:26] SPEAKER_02: I'm 40-year-old,
[02:27] SPEAKER_02: why did I get a heart disease?
[02:29] SPEAKER_02: Why I have blocked it in the heart arteries?
[02:31] SPEAKER_02: I've been active, I'm overweight,
[02:33] SPEAKER_02: I don't know, why me?
[02:36] SPEAKER_02: So I used to say,
[02:37] SPEAKER_02: it's genetics, bad luck.
[02:40] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's like that answer,
[02:42] SPEAKER_02: but I could say,
[02:43] SPEAKER_02: and it has been saying medicine,
[02:45] SPEAKER_02: I had 23 old kids coming to me,
[02:47] SPEAKER_02: and they have a heart failure,
[02:48] SPEAKER_02: and asked me, why me?
[02:50] SPEAKER_02: I'm on a 23-year-old,
[02:52] SPEAKER_02: why my heart is not pumping as well,
[02:54] SPEAKER_02: other people by the way,
[02:55] SPEAKER_02: my friends can live their life normally,
[02:57] SPEAKER_02: I could say genetics,
[02:59] SPEAKER_02: but never able to provide actually answer.
[03:01] SPEAKER_02: It's very important to know why,
[03:04] SPEAKER_02: and I was frustrated
[03:06] SPEAKER_02: within the health care system itself,
[03:08] SPEAKER_02: what we have in Canada,
[03:10] SPEAKER_02: because we've become a disease care industry.
[03:12] SPEAKER_02: We are not health care anymore.
[03:14] SPEAKER_02: So we call it a disease care.
[03:16] SPEAKER_02: We should change our rebrand over health care,
[03:18] Speaker UNKNOWN: and we should change our rebrand over health care system
[03:18] SPEAKER_02: to a disease care system,
[03:20] SPEAKER_02: Calgary disease care system,
[03:22] SPEAKER_02: Alberta disease care system,
[03:24] SPEAKER_02: who will be looking for diseases,
[03:26] SPEAKER_02: and we try to manage the disease,
[03:28] SPEAKER_02: we are not trying to prevent the disease to occur.
[03:31] SPEAKER_02: So we have to be focused in direction,
[03:34] SPEAKER_02: whose prevention is cheaper than cure.
[03:37] SPEAKER_02: So if we can keep people healthy and longer,
[03:40] SPEAKER_02: then we don't have to give all these medications
[03:43] SPEAKER_02: at the latest in life,
[03:44] SPEAKER_02: which caused a lot of money to health care system.
[03:46] SPEAKER_02: So that would motivate me that I was,
[03:49] SPEAKER_02: I wasn't happy the type of medicine I'm practicing
[03:51] SPEAKER_02: in the cardiologist.
[03:53] SPEAKER_02: So yes, I can still practice,
[03:55] SPEAKER_02: the way I'm doing right now.
[03:56] SPEAKER_02: So I tell them I can be an average cardiologist,
[03:59] SPEAKER_02: within the system,
[04:01] SPEAKER_02: the resources the government is giving me.
[04:03] SPEAKER_02: But I can be exceptional cardiologist,
[04:06] SPEAKER_02: but if you want,
[04:07] SPEAKER_02: those resources will include DNA sequencing,
[04:11] SPEAKER_02: microbiome sequencing,
[04:13] SPEAKER_02: looking at certain proteins,
[04:14] SPEAKER_02: certain hormones,
[04:16] SPEAKER_02: which may not be offered by within health care system.
[04:20] SPEAKER_02: So that could help me share some extra light.
[04:23] SPEAKER_02: So that motivated me to come to this area,
[04:27] SPEAKER_02: because I want to be provide exceptional care.
[04:30] SPEAKER_02: We are creating the exceptional human beings.
[04:33] SPEAKER_02: We are so kind, we gentle,
[04:35] SPEAKER_02: we say thank you, sorry, where are we going?
[04:37] SPEAKER_02: We open a heart.
[04:38] SPEAKER_02: We welcome everyone.
[04:39] SPEAKER_02: But we have talked about their heart now.
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[04:51] SPEAKER_01: So tell me,
[04:52] SPEAKER_01: tell me, you know,
[04:54] SPEAKER_01: you mentioned that it's a global company.
[04:59] SPEAKER_01: How are we in North America?
[05:02] SPEAKER_01: You know, I know this is generalizing,
[05:04] SPEAKER_01: but you know, when it comes to heart disease,
[05:08] SPEAKER_01: where are we in North America and Canada and U.S.
[05:11] SPEAKER_01: compared to other parts of the world?
[05:14] SPEAKER_01: I would say we are way behind.
[05:17] SPEAKER_02: The word has been moving when you come to Saudi Arabia,
[05:22] SPEAKER_02: when you come to Dubai,
[05:23] SPEAKER_02: when you come to Saudi Arabia,
[05:24] SPEAKER_02: so the globe,
[05:26] SPEAKER_02: they are incorporating genomics into health care now.
[05:30] SPEAKER_02: So for example,
[05:32] SPEAKER_02: so if someone comes in for heart disease assessment,
[05:34] SPEAKER_02: they do traditional testing.
[05:36] SPEAKER_02: Yes, we do stress testing,
[05:39] SPEAKER_02: echo cardogram, heart ultrasound,
[05:41] SPEAKER_02: but they also do it also in corporate genomic testing
[05:44] SPEAKER_02: with that.
[05:45] SPEAKER_02: They do a view or two assessment.
[05:47] SPEAKER_02: So view to assessment is a predictor of a heart health
[05:50] SPEAKER_02: and also longevity.
[05:52] SPEAKER_02: So they're incorporating those things into everyday assessments.
[05:55] SPEAKER_02: So not just in a simple treadmill stress test,
[05:58] SPEAKER_02: they want to see a view to predictability,
[06:00] SPEAKER_02: which has been shown to link to longevity.
[06:03] SPEAKER_02: So we can then make people healthier and stay them more active.
[06:07] SPEAKER_02: So they're incorporating these genomic-based
[06:10] SPEAKER_02: assay and DNA-based testing,
[06:13] SPEAKER_02: one to know what kind of gene mutations they have.
[06:17] SPEAKER_02: For example, many people in Canada,
[06:20] SPEAKER_02: every seven to perhaps 10th person, roughly estimated,
[06:24] SPEAKER_02: has a genetic mutation called LIPO-A.
[06:27] SPEAKER_02: LIPO is a type of mutation that makes person make high cholesterol,
[06:30] SPEAKER_02: even though they may not be taking too much cholesterol,
[06:34] SPEAKER_02: just making it more.
[06:36] SPEAKER_02: And you may give them statin,
[06:38] SPEAKER_02: but statin is not the right drug.
[06:40] SPEAKER_02: Does he still progress this further?
[06:43] SPEAKER_02: So there are other options,
[06:44] SPEAKER_02: there are expensive options,
[06:46] SPEAKER_02: but at least there are options.
[06:48] SPEAKER_02: So people, we don't even test those things.
[06:51] SPEAKER_02: And there are, beside LIPO-A,
[06:53] SPEAKER_02: there are many other mutations in a blur,
[06:55] SPEAKER_02: Apo-B, Apo-E, many other mutations
[06:58] SPEAKER_02: we deal with it all the time, OPCK9.
[07:01] SPEAKER_02: If we know the certain mutation people have,
[07:04] SPEAKER_02: then we give them the drug earlier.
[07:06] SPEAKER_02: What are the focuses, in this part of the world,
[07:09] SPEAKER_02: that when we have a disease,
[07:11] SPEAKER_02: we start treatment in Canada when the disease happens.
[07:14] SPEAKER_02: Then we say less for treatment.
[07:16] SPEAKER_02: Doctor prescribes ass pain, prescribes statin.
[07:19] SPEAKER_02: Here they're saying is,
[07:20] SPEAKER_02: let's find a way to disease not to occur or delay it.
[07:25] SPEAKER_02: Perhaps for treatment earlier,
[07:26] SPEAKER_02: even though violence may become, I don't know how to recommend it.
[07:29] SPEAKER_02: But the focus is on primary prevention side.
[07:31] SPEAKER_02: They want to live longer.
[07:32] SPEAKER_02: They want to hit 100 years average,
[07:34] SPEAKER_02: like spending their countries.
[07:36] SPEAKER_02: So there's a totally different focus.
[07:37] SPEAKER_02: They have a cutting edge technology,
[07:40] SPEAKER_02: the variable data, the fitbit, Apple Watch,
[07:43] SPEAKER_02: it integrates into the health systems.
[07:46] SPEAKER_02: And they're in Canada, no one even knows what is happening.
[07:50] SPEAKER_02: They have a live telemonitoring happening for the patients,
[07:53] SPEAKER_02: real time, what we have in the nursing unit.
[07:57] SPEAKER_02: They have a real time happening in the community.
[07:59] SPEAKER_02: So a home services expanded exponentially.
[08:03] SPEAKER_02: You get anything done in a home.
[08:05] SPEAKER_02: VCG is blood pressure monitoring, blood test,
[08:07] SPEAKER_02: they'll be sample to be taken at home,
[08:09] SPEAKER_02: doctors visiting your home,
[08:11] SPEAKER_02: telemedicine, distal health has been exponentially growing in this region.
[08:14] SPEAKER_02: So truly this region is moving in future.
[08:17] SPEAKER_02: And the living healthcare into the future,
[08:19] SPEAKER_02: moving the direction.
[08:20] SPEAKER_02: In Canada, we are going to our positive way.
[08:22] SPEAKER_02: So we are denying access, we are limiting access,
[08:26] SPEAKER_02: we are cutting the funding for the testing with the doctors,
[08:30] SPEAKER_02: we are limiting the access to medication,
[08:32] SPEAKER_02: we are going backwards.
[08:36] SPEAKER_02: So what's your background?
[08:38] SPEAKER_02: Like where are you from originally?
[08:40] SPEAKER_02: Originally I am from India.
[08:42] SPEAKER_02: I did my medical school in Russia.
[08:44] SPEAKER_02: Did my actual medicine?
[08:45] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, in Russia,
[08:46] SPEAKER_02: did my internal medicine training in Edmonton, U of A.
[08:49] SPEAKER_02: And my cardiology is in Winnipeg.
[08:51] SPEAKER_02: Spend some time in the training to learn a voiceless medicine.
[08:55] SPEAKER_02: Because I didn't want to do it just a cardiology doctor,
[08:58] SPEAKER_02: I want to be a voiceless medicine,
[08:59] SPEAKER_02: crotted arteries, arteries, a whole body.
[09:02] SPEAKER_02: If you have blockages in one,
[09:03] SPEAKER_02: arteries, your blockages in all the arteries,
[09:05] SPEAKER_02: then we want to be full comprehensive cardiologists.
[09:08] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so curiosity, why did you study in Russia?
[09:14] SPEAKER_02: Thank you for asking the question.
[09:16] SPEAKER_02: I had an office study medicine in India,
[09:19] SPEAKER_02: all my friends grew up in India.
[09:21] SPEAKER_02: They all studied medicine.
[09:23] SPEAKER_02: They are amazing doctors in India.
[09:24] SPEAKER_02: But I wanted to have a different skill set.
[09:27] SPEAKER_02: I wanted to broaden my horizon.
[09:31] SPEAKER_02: So when I turned 19,
[09:33] SPEAKER_02: so I spoke to my parents and got a scholarship.
[09:36] SPEAKER_02: So I said,
[09:37] SPEAKER_02: opportunity I could be a doctor either way,
[09:39] SPEAKER_02: but I could be a better doctor if I get an international exposure.
[09:43] SPEAKER_02: So that allowed me to learn healthcare system from their angle.
[09:46] SPEAKER_02: They're a viewpoint.
[09:47] SPEAKER_02: So then I came to Canada.
[09:48] SPEAKER_02: I learned the Canadian viewpoint.
[09:50] SPEAKER_02: So that allowed a global perspective.
[09:53] SPEAKER_01: Okay, then.
[09:54] SPEAKER_01: So and what attracted you to this area of medicine
[09:59] SPEAKER_01: in terms of the heart disease and that?
[10:01] SPEAKER_01: Like, what was the interest there for you?
[10:05] SPEAKER_02: Desired to help people,
[10:07] SPEAKER_02: desired to get people to get the right answers at the right time.
[10:11] SPEAKER_02: And without any delay.
[10:13] SPEAKER_02: So if I could in the technology solutions into play,
[10:17] SPEAKER_02: if you can bring in the state of art,
[10:19] SPEAKER_02: technology or testing or things I can use in a more proactive way.
[10:26] SPEAKER_02: So that motivated me towards cardiology.
[10:28] SPEAKER_02: cardiology all usually has been we're heading the innovation cycle
[10:31] SPEAKER_02: and medicine quite often.
[10:33] SPEAKER_02: Then other parts of medicine oncology,
[10:36] SPEAKER_02: rheumatology,
[10:37] SPEAKER_02: rheumatology, they have taken recent recent advances in this area.
[10:42] SPEAKER_02: Our current cardiology has been from day one to take these steps
[10:46] SPEAKER_02: in this direction.
[10:48] SPEAKER_02: So naturally it made sense for me to do research in this area.
[10:52] SPEAKER_02: So we found it.
[10:54] SPEAKER_02: Canada's first May 1 million dollar research here called
[10:57] SPEAKER_02: Gurnanak David the research here at University of Calgary.
[11:00] SPEAKER_02: Where 1 million dollars were spent to find solutions for South Asian community.
[11:05] SPEAKER_02: Because South Asian Canadians are at high risk developing heart disease
[11:09] SPEAKER_02: and non-South Asian Canadians.
[11:11] SPEAKER_02: So, but just answer,
[11:13] SPEAKER_02: which is a every fifth, sixth Canadian problem is the South Asian.
[11:16] SPEAKER_02: So by saying that is genetics,
[11:19] SPEAKER_02: not providing them as support or resources,
[11:20] SPEAKER_02: it wasn't not an answer.
[11:22] SPEAKER_02: So I wanted to encourage research in the healthcare system for more funding,
[11:27] SPEAKER_02: for University of Calgary,
[11:29] SPEAKER_02: research is going to learn more about community.
[11:32] SPEAKER_02: The communities are born here or immigrated
[11:34] SPEAKER_02: and we can provide better care for everyone.
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[11:46] SPEAKER_01: You know, you're obviously, you're your doctor,
[11:49] SPEAKER_01: but you're also a businessman, right?
[11:51] SPEAKER_01: And so tell me how do you juggle both?
[11:55] SPEAKER_01: Like do you still have time to do your doctor stuff?
[11:59] SPEAKER_01: Or is it mostly business stuff now?
[12:03] SPEAKER_02: I think it's both.
[12:05] SPEAKER_02: My business is the best business ever.
[12:08] SPEAKER_02: It is saving people's life.
[12:10] SPEAKER_02: And making sure they get the right treatment,
[12:13] SPEAKER_02: the right strategies.
[12:15] SPEAKER_02: And intent is always first do no harm.
[12:18] SPEAKER_02: I was talking to some of the royal families here in the UAE in the middle of the last few days.
[12:24] SPEAKER_02: And ideas always do first no harm to the patient.
[12:27] SPEAKER_02: If you can't help, can fix.
[12:29] SPEAKER_02: Let's not harm the patient.
[12:30] SPEAKER_02: That's number one.
[12:31] SPEAKER_02: It's very, very important.
[12:33] SPEAKER_02: And so from that intent, what are the business we have?
[12:38] SPEAKER_02: We try to make sure the pricing is affordable for the patients.
[12:41] SPEAKER_02: And so you want to make sure that there's the democratized access there.
[12:44] SPEAKER_02: Even though we have lots of patents in the bio-ware,
[12:47] SPEAKER_02: or we have filed over 70 patents over the last couple of years.
[12:51] SPEAKER_02: But we still want to make sure that there's a democratic access.
[12:55] SPEAKER_02: No one should have a control of humanity like humanity.
[13:00] SPEAKER_02: So we want people, average person should be able to afford.
[13:03] SPEAKER_02: So that's my business.
[13:05] SPEAKER_02: To genomic testing and all these amazing technologies are only confined
[13:10] SPEAKER_02: to the rich or rich people on the South right now.
[13:13] SPEAKER_02: My goal is to make it to get to the masses.
[13:17] SPEAKER_02: So even if I could make a $1 from a $1 billion,
[13:20] SPEAKER_02: T plus a $1 billion, that's the best business.
[13:23] SPEAKER_02: So this then make it cheaper and more accessible
[13:28] SPEAKER_02: and from a global perspective.
[13:30] SPEAKER_02: So I do both.
[13:31] SPEAKER_02: So I do practice medicine.
[13:33] SPEAKER_02: I do see cardiology.
[13:34] SPEAKER_02: By the way, I'm looking for new cardiologists.
[13:36] SPEAKER_02: And hopefully the division of cardiology in Calgary
[13:40] SPEAKER_02: would help me find new cardiologists.
[13:42] SPEAKER_02: So I could help make Alberta proud.
[13:45] SPEAKER_02: So I could make Canada proud by deploying this technology
[13:48] SPEAKER_02: not within the Canada Health Preserve system,
[13:50] SPEAKER_02: but a global level.
[13:52] SPEAKER_02: So that will generate a more revenue, more economic output,
[13:56] SPEAKER_02: more jobs will be kept in the area.
[13:58] SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
[14:00] SPEAKER_02: Well, health is big business, isn't it?
[14:03] SPEAKER_02: Well, we always need it.
[14:04] SPEAKER_02: And health is an investment.
[14:05] SPEAKER_02: And not an expense.
[14:08] SPEAKER_02: And so like in business, we invest money for success.
[14:12] SPEAKER_02: We should invest money in our health.
[14:15] SPEAKER_02: So if you don't do it, as bills will fail,
[14:17] SPEAKER_02: if not strategies will place,
[14:19] SPEAKER_02: same way we have to invest money in our health.
[14:22] SPEAKER_02: And we should have a right strategy.
[14:24] SPEAKER_02: And the major you follow through,
[14:26] SPEAKER_02: then will be successful for a long, long time.
[14:28] SPEAKER_02: So it is a safe business.
[14:30] SPEAKER_02: I do recommend people to invest into health.
[14:32] SPEAKER_02: I recommend everyone.
[14:33] SPEAKER_02: Because it improves.
[14:36] SPEAKER_01: All of us help.
[14:38] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[14:39] SPEAKER_01: So you know, with all your travels and every where you've been
[14:42] SPEAKER_01: and studied and white Calgary.
[14:47] SPEAKER_01: Why can't you hear?
[14:49] SPEAKER_02: Well, Calgary is a beautiful city.
[14:51] SPEAKER_02: Amazing, amazing people.
[14:52] SPEAKER_02: It's Calgary who made me who I am today.
[14:54] SPEAKER_02: So I'm thankful to Alberta.
[14:56] SPEAKER_02: That's from the bottom.
[14:58] SPEAKER_02: If it wasn't Alberta, it wasn't Calgary.
[15:00] SPEAKER_02: I would not stay any of the part of Canada.
[15:02] SPEAKER_02: So I love Calgary.
[15:04] SPEAKER_02: Why?
[15:04] SPEAKER_02: Because we believe in innovation.
[15:07] SPEAKER_02: We let innovation happen in the companies.
[15:10] SPEAKER_02: We put more into the shape.
[15:11] SPEAKER_02: We have one of the lowest taxes in the year in North America.
[15:16] SPEAKER_02: So we encourage competition.
[15:18] SPEAKER_02: We encourage entrepreneurship.
[15:20] SPEAKER_02: In health.
[15:20] SPEAKER_02: Yes, we have challenges.
[15:22] SPEAKER_02: Adoption is low.
[15:24] SPEAKER_02: So for adoption, I have to go outside as many of the health care companies.
[15:28] SPEAKER_02: Before our health system adopts us.
[15:31] SPEAKER_02: So we have to validate our technologies outside.
[15:34] SPEAKER_02: Then we get a help in Canada.
[15:36] SPEAKER_02: But the innovation cycle in the support what we get from a environment in itself,
[15:42] SPEAKER_02: the talent we have in Calgary is amazing.
[15:45] SPEAKER_02: We are top to a city.
[15:46] SPEAKER_02: We just need to support and provide it.
[15:49] SPEAKER_02: And so I would not rate Calgary with any other city.
[15:53] SPEAKER_02: Yes, the only thing is in Toronto, when the environment may be good.
[15:56] SPEAKER_02: Calgary is the best city in my opinion.
[15:58] SPEAKER_01: Okay, super.
[15:58] SPEAKER_01: So Dr, what do you do outside of the business and outside of being a doctor?
[16:07] SPEAKER_01: Like what do you do to relax and do you have any passions and any interest hobbies?
[16:14] SPEAKER_01: Well, good questions.
[16:15] SPEAKER_02: Someone asked me yesterday and the doctor was a story.
[16:18] SPEAKER_02: What do you do?
[16:19] SPEAKER_02: I love meeting people, talking to people, interacting with them and learning from them,
[16:25] SPEAKER_02: socializing, spending time with them.
[16:26] SPEAKER_02: So going to art, play, theater, nice meal dinner, from a sports perspective,
[16:34] SPEAKER_02: I like to go to gym.
[16:35] SPEAKER_02: I like to get this energy out sometimes.
[16:39] SPEAKER_02: Negativity comes in the cycle of any entrepreneur.
[16:42] SPEAKER_02: So make sure to go practice the size and try to get my anger in a gym.
[16:47] SPEAKER_02: So I do that.
[16:49] SPEAKER_02: They try to go for it.
[16:50] SPEAKER_02: I do regularly when I'm traveling.
[16:53] SPEAKER_02: And if in the airport I do some exercises in the airport in itself, try to keep my heart rate going and cardio going.
[17:01] SPEAKER_02: So do enjoy movies.
[17:03] SPEAKER_02: I do enjoy a formal one.
[17:06] SPEAKER_02: Driving is my passion.
[17:08] SPEAKER_02: So could be a frories one of my favorites.
[17:10] SPEAKER_02: So I do, I'm hoping for them to win one championship one day.
[17:13] SPEAKER_02: So I'm cheering for them in hockey flames the best one day will put the Stanley Cup to go.
[17:18] SPEAKER_02: So I'm counting on all of those things.
[17:22] SPEAKER_01: All right, well wonderful.
[17:24] SPEAKER_01: I appreciate you taking the time and talking to us today, Dr.
[17:29] SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
[17:29] SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
[17:30] SPEAKER_01: All right, that was Dr. Ann Moll Kapoor who is founder and CEO of BioEro.
[17:36] SPEAKER_01: I'm Mario Tonogusi, managing editor of Canada's podcast today with Calgary's podcast.
[17:42] SPEAKER_01: Thanks for joining us.