Corey Croft

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[00:00] SPEAKER_00: It's VanCouver's podcast on the Canada's podcast network.
[00:12] SPEAKER_00: Hello everyone, I'm Angela Faye, Hub Builder and co-host of British Columbia's Podcasts.
[00:19] SPEAKER_00: Part of the Canada's podcast network, your source for great insights from entrepreneurs
[00:23] SPEAKER_00: from across Canada.
[00:25] SPEAKER_00: We talked entrepreneurs who are making it happen here so you can listen, discover, and engage.
[00:31] SPEAKER_00: Today we're talking to Corey Croft, who is an accidental entrepreneur and founder of
[00:36] SPEAKER_00: FlyElegant Press, an independent book publishing company operating out of Vancouver, BC.
[00:42] SPEAKER_00: Focusing on delivering non-commercial works of fiction in electronic and hard copy formats
[00:46] SPEAKER_00: and creating open-ended discourse through official publications and blogs, the company
[00:52] SPEAKER_00: has a hard-to-figate slogan which you'll hear in Corey's Canada's podcast and view on
[00:58] SPEAKER_00: his website.
[00:59] SPEAKER_00: It's also his guiding principle for both content and deliveries, so we look forward to hearing
[01:03] SPEAKER_00: more from you, Corey.
[01:05] SPEAKER_00: Corey's from CISBC Canada, self-described as a user of GALO's humor, help him thumble
[01:12] SPEAKER_00: gracefully into a meaningless world.
[01:15] SPEAKER_00: He avoids eye contact with strangers and doesn't understand most kinds of science.
[01:20] SPEAKER_00: As a child, he was taken to church every Sunday and worried that every time it rained, it
[01:25] SPEAKER_00: would rain, beplicky.
[01:26] SPEAKER_00: And as an adult, the rain is pretty good for writing and sleeping.
[01:31] SPEAKER_00: Corey, welcome to Canada's podcast.
[01:33] SPEAKER_00: Hi, thanks for having me.
[01:34] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
[01:36] SPEAKER_00: So, you know, we've met before and I've done a lot of research on a little bit of your
[01:40] SPEAKER_00: background.
[01:41] SPEAKER_00: You are armed with a master's degree in urban studies and you have seven years of hospitality.
[01:47] SPEAKER_00: So it's completely unexpected, perhaps, but it's been a creative journey.
[01:51] SPEAKER_00: Tell me about your entrepreneurial story and how you got here.
[01:54] SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
[01:55] SPEAKER_01: So, I think mostly like anyone, it kind of came out of half an assessment, half desperation.
[02:01] SPEAKER_01: I mean, I did the master's degree and I really, really wanted to get a job in my field.
[02:07] SPEAKER_01: It just wasn't happening.
[02:09] SPEAKER_01: And since frustrating, so you can't press through it with hospitality and mystery because
[02:14] SPEAKER_01: that was what I wanted to do, or what I thought it should be.
[02:17] SPEAKER_01: I wanted to use my degree, but I probably sent out for anyone who's Canada's other situation.
[02:25] SPEAKER_01: Around 13 to 1500 TVs and individual tribal letters globally, Canada, US, anywhere I really
[02:33] SPEAKER_01: thought that was part of hundreds of forms and message words.
[02:39] SPEAKER_01: Any kind of door to knock, I was trying to throw my foot through it, get coffee, sessions,
[02:45] SPEAKER_01: and the connection I knew.
[02:48] SPEAKER_01: None of that was really working out.
[02:50] SPEAKER_01: So for me, I always wanted to write.
[02:53] SPEAKER_01: I was wanted to write.
[02:54] SPEAKER_01: I've never really taken any classes or anything particular, but I've seen some things and
[02:59] SPEAKER_01: that can help.
[03:03] SPEAKER_01: And basically, one of the things was I just always had certain ideas.
[03:08] SPEAKER_01: When I was a child, when you get some time to do it, when you get some time to do it,
[03:11] SPEAKER_01: but I kind of found myself coming to hang out with time and something crossed my mind and
[03:16] SPEAKER_01: then they made me chuckle with a cap.
[03:18] SPEAKER_01: Ah, because first word.
[03:20] SPEAKER_01: And I was like, ah, when I had time all day, and I kind of looked around and I was just
[03:23] SPEAKER_01: kind of drinking a coffee and not doing much.
[03:26] SPEAKER_01: And I was like, whoa.
[03:27] SPEAKER_01: I was a little more impactful than, whoa, whoa.
[03:30] SPEAKER_01: Like I didn't do this right now.
[03:32] SPEAKER_01: So I just kind of started.
[03:33] SPEAKER_01: And I kind of coincided with really needing a career to go out with the hospitality.
[03:40] SPEAKER_01: Nothing else had really boarded me.
[03:43] SPEAKER_01: So I just kind of started at one day, I was a year and a half, and I was like, oh, 30 days.
[03:48] SPEAKER_01: And see what that takes you.
[03:50] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, see if anything kind of solidifies.
[03:52] SPEAKER_01: And if you enjoy it, I think I've stepped for it by going traveling.
[03:57] SPEAKER_01: I really hadn't missed the day and that was it.
[04:00] SPEAKER_01: Or three, four years ago.
[04:02] SPEAKER_00: Well, and just getting to know you a little bit, you know, what work do you do right now?
[04:09] SPEAKER_00: I mean, in your entrepreneurial pursuits, not in your employment.
[04:12] SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
[04:12] SPEAKER_01: So what I realized, because I was sending out my, my store is getting editing.
[04:18] SPEAKER_01: It's all the editors.
[04:18] SPEAKER_01: And you wanted to read it to them.
[04:19] SPEAKER_01: Well, I enjoyed it.
[04:21] SPEAKER_01: It's a black man.
[04:22] SPEAKER_01: Like this is, you might have to change quite a bit of things to make it conform to a more mainstream appeal.
[04:28] SPEAKER_01: And kind of looked at it like, oh, I've never really been mainstreamed guy, you know.
[04:33] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I got like, I like all kinds of things that I wouldn't do to classify anything.
[04:38] SPEAKER_01: It's all in your original.
[04:40] SPEAKER_01: So I kind of looked at my options and wrote them on my own publishing company.
[04:44] SPEAKER_01: And it was moreifiable.
[04:47] SPEAKER_01: And then I don't know if they're building with brands.
[04:49] SPEAKER_01: So social media kind of people want to do that case.
[04:52] SPEAKER_01: You know, basically on Instagram, although little guys around the constellations,
[04:59] SPEAKER_01: they've got their kind of built with the broadcast.
[05:02] SPEAKER_01: And then just kind of, I think, I've been trying to build a brand through the website as a January.
[05:09] SPEAKER_01: And really just trying to get the message out there, which is to come in and take a look.
[05:15] SPEAKER_00: When I'm treated by your story, you are in start-up mode, right?
[05:18] SPEAKER_00: You just said the starting in January, but you do, you do have a stated crew, right?
[05:23] SPEAKER_00: You have crew.
[05:24] SPEAKER_00: You've got black coffee, cigarettes and dread.
[05:27] SPEAKER_00: Talk me a little bit through those.
[05:29] SPEAKER_01: So start with the black coffee, which is something I don't know.
[05:33] SPEAKER_01: I'm all like imagine.
[05:33] SPEAKER_01: See, it's weird.
[05:35] SPEAKER_01: Black coffee.
[05:36] SPEAKER_01: Normally, it's just one of the things you hear most when you go to visit my parents house.
[05:40] SPEAKER_01: My brother's in there is fresh pot.
[05:42] SPEAKER_01: I mean, someone just do a fresh pot.
[05:44] SPEAKER_01: And everyone in my family, James got pretty much black.
[05:47] SPEAKER_01: So that's one of those things.
[05:50] SPEAKER_01: And then just for cigarettes, I've quit a couple of times.
[05:53] SPEAKER_01: But I'm a pretty anxious person.
[05:55] SPEAKER_01: I have to be used in one of my hands with my mouth.
[05:58] SPEAKER_01: And that was born just on the last little bit of eyes.
[06:02] SPEAKER_01: It's a cool James Dean, right?
[06:05] SPEAKER_01: And so I, I don't have a lot of necessarily things.
[06:10] SPEAKER_01: I think that I would say I enjoy sports.
[06:13] SPEAKER_01: I enjoy certain things.
[06:14] SPEAKER_01: But I'm not a big drinker.
[06:16] SPEAKER_01: I don't really use drugs.
[06:18] SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of, that's the guy.
[06:20] SPEAKER_00: It's your vice, exactly.
[06:22] SPEAKER_01: What are my guys?
[06:23] SPEAKER_01: And as far as the dread goes, man, I don't know if you want to live,
[06:27] SPEAKER_01: who doesn't walk around with pocket hole, you know,
[06:31] SPEAKER_01: some kind of negative or pessimistic or even just almost like doing present thoughts.
[06:36] SPEAKER_01: So it's one of those things that people tend to hide,
[06:39] SPEAKER_01: act like everything's okay, pretend that it doesn't exist, you know, mortality.
[06:44] SPEAKER_01: And I like to embrace those thoughts.
[06:46] SPEAKER_01: I like to really go in, you know, kind of get into the gossip,
[06:50] SPEAKER_01: my own psyche as well as looking at others.
[06:53] SPEAKER_01: And then just try and flesh out kind of deeper meanings and look at interesting or diverse ways of analyzing, you know, such an animal.
[07:05] SPEAKER_00: So Corey, do you have a mantra or an inspirational quote that you consistently refer to?
[07:12] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do.
[07:14] SPEAKER_01: And the website I think you're greeted by the first thing it says is the little shield logo that we made.
[07:20] SPEAKER_01: And it's going to be flat belt compressed and then rip a little that and take a little bit of skin to that as well.
[07:25] SPEAKER_00: Well, we're going to delve a little bit into that in a little bit later in the podcast.
[07:29] SPEAKER_00: But I mean, right now we've got a little bit of dread. We've got a little bit of, you know, independent as fuck.
[07:34] SPEAKER_00: We've got non mainstream publishing happening. What keeps you up at night?
[07:40] SPEAKER_01: Oh, I think it about it all. I'll be copy. I mean, I drink coffee completely throughout the day.
[07:44] SPEAKER_01: I should keep you up all fucking night.
[07:47] SPEAKER_01: But no, for the most part, it's just it would be like when you get a thought like that,
[07:52] SPEAKER_01: we never great story to tell when you have a captivating discourse that you want to try and
[08:03] SPEAKER_01: just keep pulling out and pulling out and pulling out and pulling out and then probably free basing some math.
[08:08] SPEAKER_01: And then just pulling out and some more of that time midnight hits.
[08:11] SPEAKER_01: So I don't have a kid.
[08:12] SPEAKER_01: Not obviously, but like that's the feeling. It's like that's the feeling that gets inside of your head is that it's a pursuit.
[08:18] SPEAKER_01: But it's something you need more almost spiritual.
[08:21] SPEAKER_01: You just you're not only do I want to tell a great story, but I want to read a great story.
[08:28] SPEAKER_01: I enjoy reading my own stuff. I look at that.
[08:32] SPEAKER_01: It's guy.
[08:34] SPEAKER_01: Well, like that's the thing is it's it's it's a principle for students.
[08:38] SPEAKER_01: I want to say perfection, but it's a pursuit of something we can tell of something lasting that kind of keeps you up and makes you want to kind of just put your entire body.
[08:50] SPEAKER_01: And then you're going to do it.
[08:52] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's talk about putting all your body in mind into fly Pelican press.
[08:57] SPEAKER_00: You know, never being boring is another one of your mantras, right?
[09:02] SPEAKER_00: Definitely not mainstream.
[09:04] SPEAKER_00: Tell me why do you believe that there's a need for your independent publishing platform?
[09:11] SPEAKER_01: I would say there's numerous independent publishing platforms that they tend to cater to a specific demographic.
[09:18] SPEAKER_01: But that's certainly gender, certain race, certain social movement.
[09:23] SPEAKER_01: I'm happy to admit that mine is pretty free of any any any any strings or any kind of linear perspective.
[09:30] SPEAKER_01: Mine can be broken into twofold against one is to kind of almost huge believer freedom speech.
[09:37] SPEAKER_01: What I mean by that is I don't necessarily think that all speeches acceptable or should be said to somebody.
[09:42] SPEAKER_01: But if someone wants to use her full language or said something that I disagree with.
[09:45] SPEAKER_01: I don't have to associate with them or be around them.
[09:48] SPEAKER_01: That's the free speech is being able to make the choice if you can.
[09:52] SPEAKER_01: Whether or not you want to associate or even kind of year round a group or a person based on how they choose to use that as either a weapon or as a tool.
[10:02] SPEAKER_01: Secondly is I guess I was reading my blog.
[10:05] SPEAKER_01: I didn't kind of the catalog where it didn't become a theme that comes up is to be yourself and to be comfortable when your own thoughts in your own skin.
[10:15] SPEAKER_01: One of the things I was kind of thinking about as I was reading it was what scares me is you can't necessarily control the ideas about the coming year ahead.
[10:24] SPEAKER_01: A lot of people choose to let them and kind of push them away to go.
[10:28] SPEAKER_01: I don't want to go down that road.
[10:30] SPEAKER_01: I might still on a personal level like to go down that railroad that swamped and wait around with a more too long.
[10:37] SPEAKER_01: It's one of those things where you're not going to learn anything about yourself.
[10:41] SPEAKER_01: You're not willing to do a few diet and investigate beyond the water and the great without worship.
[10:49] SPEAKER_01: It's largely as it be if it connects with people and the reason why it's out there and they would like to connect with it is because I will put the platform where you can just be yourself.
[10:59] SPEAKER_01: I mean, you can just kind of express what's going on inside of you work it out in the most things.
[11:07] SPEAKER_01: Staying in chaotic ways that you want. However that works.
[11:11] SPEAKER_00: Cool. So it's it. I have a little bit of privilege because we've spoken before knowing that you've got a couple of books that have already been published and you're launching another one this fall.
[11:21] SPEAKER_01: I have one book out already. One's going to be released September first and we have a very one line that for December first.
[11:29] SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool. And what but one of your goals ultimately is to also work with other collaborative right other others that want to express themselves like that.
[11:36] SPEAKER_00: So if you could describe one to two ideal clients or collaborators if you like.
[11:42] SPEAKER_00: Could you give me a sense and I know you said, you know, we don't want to pigeonhole your niche.
[11:46] SPEAKER_00: But what would be their style or their story or their mission. What impact would their writing and creativity invoke.
[11:57] SPEAKER_00: And what time and investment do you do they need to make to be able to work with you?
[12:03] SPEAKER_01: Okay. I thought I was with style first. I don't put a sense rather than a body style.
[12:09] SPEAKER_01: They can definitely present to me any particular style or form or narrative characters are it doesn't matter.
[12:20] SPEAKER_01: I don't have to me is and it's not I'm not even used to buzz with like fault and all commercial is just I stand by the quality and the quality being that of it's not a cookie cutter.
[12:31] SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure what the story with what overused tropes. It's almost like it's written by a written via Mary and that strings where you're like, okay, here's the beginning.
[12:39] SPEAKER_01: Here's the end of it.
[12:40] SPEAKER_01: And when I read something and I'm overwhelmed by overjoy it's never something that really found like kind of it's one of the person's picks that I've looked for.
[12:52] SPEAKER_01: You know, it's one of those things where it could be as easy as like a story in the back of a fishing magazine.
[12:59] SPEAKER_01: But it's something that inversely trust is something that doesn't play by the rules of structure is something that doesn't have a happy ending because the author wants you to walk away feeling fuzzy and angry and want is something that challenges the reader.
[13:14] SPEAKER_01: It doesn't even have to be filthy or it doesn't have to be doesn't have to go out of its way to be dark or depressing or or dreadful.
[13:23] SPEAKER_01: It just has to be something festival that you feel something that something that takes care and something that takes pride and something that says no.
[13:31] SPEAKER_01: I know this is a great story and with this much better thing I can make like a normal kind of rising action falling action thing.
[13:38] SPEAKER_01: But I like it the way I do is that kind of stuff in this to create a creativity and everything in a just integrity that really doesn't.
[13:48] SPEAKER_00: So I want to pick up on a couple of your sentiments, but visceral and challenging and you know I kind of had this pretense when we first started that you weren't quite ready for Canada's podcast because you weren't yet ready to bring in clients.
[14:03] SPEAKER_00: You know we ended up talking for like an hour and I was totally seduced but here's where you have already led me out of my comfort zone right we have a script that we.
[14:13] SPEAKER_00: And see here in this podcast because we know what our listeners like I am going way off script okay I'm totally in brand with independent as fuck when.
[14:24] SPEAKER_00: In this conversation so here are a few questions for you.
[14:29] SPEAKER_00: You say and that you write about misheard song lyrics yeah okay name one and tell us what you think the mass is heard and then what you heard.
[14:42] SPEAKER_01: It's not honestly it's not even a popular song. I remember the song name it's off it's a song by a group called atmosphere right it's a hip hop group from the Minneapolis.
[14:53] SPEAKER_01: It's a fairly good album called God knows that and I was like walking down and I was going through some lady thought home so I was pretty good up with a girl and I was like listening to it in this.
[15:04] SPEAKER_01: It's not the most happy music either it's a little depressing and I just like a random shuffle kind of on the playlist but the guy said now my only friends is a rope and a raptor which is dark but that's not what I heard.
[15:20] SPEAKER_01: I heard blah blah blah my only friend is a raptor and shit I was like imagine having a raptor as a friend get into all kinds of the hijinks and I heard that and like I had a little bit of song again I went home and honestly I just kind of was like I have a really good idea and I just kind of I'm actually publishing a story in the next month on my website as kind of like a thank you.
[15:46] SPEAKER_01: I'm getting ready for the watch and I don't say what exactly happens but basically this is something like a pop up kind of backdrop where a guy wakes up one morning next to a raptor and it seems like a very simple premise when you're reading the book I know what's happening.
[16:15] SPEAKER_00: I'm going to get into the middle of this podcast for you. So you say you write about.
[16:20] SPEAKER_00: I'm not.
[16:22] SPEAKER_00: Sexuality mental illness dinosaurs real and imaginary places zombies addiction weapons fire love villains killing racism robots yourself murder religion yeah okay so we're going to get to know Corey here a little bit okay so what religion are you.
[16:48] SPEAKER_01: This not even worth thinking about why not because that I mean I really quick answer man I'm really more like an absurd fellow so the way I was.
[16:58] SPEAKER_01: He's I so if it's something I try to make sense out of it my own head if I can't do that then I'm going to lose my mind if I don't need another scope or I don't need a another.
[17:10] SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty capable of looking at things and analyzing them myself making sense out of myself that's why my writing I feel is so.
[17:20] SPEAKER_01: Like it's how it is because I look at something and I'm depending on feeling that there how when I'm being kind of influenced by reading or just how my thoughts are going that is going to.
[17:30] SPEAKER_01: And the lenses of how I'm perceiving something and I was raised Catholic I have you know but I come from a lot of last.
[17:40] SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you have the only one but okay I'm going to jump right to murder here so can you describe in gravity a murder scene that you've written about.
[17:52] SPEAKER_01: I mean I think there's usually one there's a murder and all so I'm writing how to say yeah there's a lot I mean the first book that I wrote a coward novel so there's probably a good I don't know I think the guy cast me like I think there's like 30 something murder is in there they're pretty and they're and that book it's 22 because they're taking pretty.
[18:14] SPEAKER_01: They are at face value for no different than changing a fire into a two and three one but there's also in the next book there's an unfortunate murder in some books there's more.
[18:30] SPEAKER_01: I think there's generally anti-hero that don't see murder being much more than a duty and a part of life.
[18:37] SPEAKER_01: Gotcha yeah so it just depends it's not so much a vehicle so much as an advantage it happens.
[18:48] SPEAKER_00: Gotcha okay Corey what do you know about love.
[18:53] SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah I've had that before it's pretty good when it happens and sucks the way I think I don't know if I ever written this maybe I have to me a love is like a it's like an insane winter or summer when it's happening right now Vancouver it's like oh man it's like 30 it's so hot but so when you're in love you you acknowledge that love is being called you know I got you.
[19:18] SPEAKER_01: Yeah then there's always those summers and those winters like I lived in Montreal and it's minus 40 daily so even when it's cold out here and you know I've never had to get my partner in Vancouver and you remember those winters like Jesus nation cold life and you just remember those winters you remember those great ones those love you ride in your life and they stay with you almost by dialectics they're changing.
[19:43] SPEAKER_01: So weapons are on your list of things you write about yeah what's your favorite weapon right about oh I can show you yeah sure sure I just got a bunch of copies of curious to mail out to get for promotional uses so my baby brother named Spencer same last name he does all my art he's a fantastic artist I make him go very simple much to the sugar in but that's my favorite weapon.
[20:12] SPEAKER_01: I don't even know what that is but it's a battle is a battle it's like to hit through it. Yeah for nails or real or like stopping like that.
[20:21] SPEAKER_00: Yeah get on the little bro for putting that into a perfect graphic.
[20:25] SPEAKER_01: I actually have that tattooed on my side as well.
[20:28] SPEAKER_00: Ah interesting so one two or three addictions that you've experienced.
[20:37] SPEAKER_01: Man I wish I said I probably shouldn't say any because that's what we do we just say we like stuff.
[20:44] SPEAKER_01: I mean I'm addicted to coffee addicted to cigarettes and you want to talk about love and addicted to that too.
[20:51] SPEAKER_01: I used to really like my drink. I just don't do it very much because I can't afford to waste the day the next day and beyond that just I have a very frightening and habitual personality almost like.
[21:06] SPEAKER_01: So when I ever kind of felt myself start to see them do a new flavor you know new ice cream then I would quickly just separate myself from that and be like okay that's a bad idea because I'm going to come from a city.
[21:21] SPEAKER_01: It's not a series.
[21:22] SPEAKER_01: We need to look around you see kind of put a decision that some that stuff yeah and then eventually your face is going to look the same as everybody else.
[21:30] SPEAKER_01: I just want to look at that.
[21:33] SPEAKER_00: Yeah absolutely and I get it you know I got to bring it out because you read about it so let's not hide it.
[21:39] SPEAKER_00: What is the most essential position that you couldn't do without?
[21:45] SPEAKER_01: Oh roll on top.
[21:49] SPEAKER_00: It's a better thing.
[21:51] SPEAKER_00: Okay.
[21:51] SPEAKER_00: Any for a type of dinosaur.
[21:53] SPEAKER_01: Oh knee jerk is raptor but I like I like stagosaurus is because.
[21:59] SPEAKER_01: I got to love those finds many got to love those finds and sex snake tail that sharp tail looks like that.
[22:04] SPEAKER_01: But I grew up I saw the original Jurassic Park when I came out of here is my last raptors terrifying little guys turns out they have feathers but.
[22:13] Speaker UNKNOWN: 
[22:13] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[22:14] SPEAKER_00: All right.
[22:16] SPEAKER_00: So yeah I've been reading a little bit of your writing online right.
[22:19] SPEAKER_00: Tell me just get a get serious for a second.
[22:22] SPEAKER_00: Tell me about your friend.
[22:25] SPEAKER_00: The one that wasn't allowed to die.
[22:28] SPEAKER_01: I got a lot of you for that because people so.
[22:32] SPEAKER_01: I have a huge comic book family I would go to say her I love I love me.
[22:36] SPEAKER_01: I mean comic books mostly Marvel but like I already see the movie and the movies I'm obsessed with the movie and then you work came out and I've seen that.
[22:47] SPEAKER_01: On Netflix probably like it's just my going to like I wanted a little bit of noise was put on you look at like oh yeah.
[22:55] SPEAKER_01: So I saw in game and I was like I always was a captain America guy never was before I read the book civil war where he kind of passes reasons on my phone.
[23:05] SPEAKER_01: So you know what I always thought he was like so much.
[23:08] SPEAKER_01: I was some crack.
[23:10] SPEAKER_01: He just called the rule of a pretty dishes and no man like this guy just has his values never expect that to hear and go.
[23:17] SPEAKER_01: Where Tony Stark didn't agree with so much so since then I was kind of like a Iron Man is already got.
[23:24] SPEAKER_01: And I didn't know why like you kind of rank or move like his character like I left out the guy acting it did amazing job movies are great for us like I'm.
[23:33] SPEAKER_01: I'm going to be Roger's.
[23:35] SPEAKER_01: And then in game happened and I saw that cool shit that character I just performed over 11 years ago.
[23:44] Speaker UNKNOWN: It's fucking masterpiece like that was amazing.
[23:48] SPEAKER_01: I was blown away and I was I left the beard I was like sad I was like damn I thought about it because.
[23:53] SPEAKER_01: The one thing like no matter how no matter what you do like most one of that super important thing is to give yourself time to think about how you feel about stuff don't just brush off an experience.
[24:05] SPEAKER_01: It's nothing like if something affects you even a little bit.
[24:08] SPEAKER_01: You should owe yourself like to pay you take the money pay to give yourself some time to reflect that that's important.
[24:16] SPEAKER_01: I was thinking about it because I'm pretty narcissistic and related and back to myself quite a bit.
[24:23] SPEAKER_01: Wow that is a crazy and like I guess you like character you identify with and fill up my character to you identify with the night.
[24:33] SPEAKER_01: So I tend to almost push away from Tony because you know he's.
[24:37] SPEAKER_01: And he's all these things and I started looking at the less superficial traits and more like that psychology and I was like.
[24:47] SPEAKER_01: And he's just like a scared dude who wants to just do right and got people and.
[24:53] SPEAKER_01: Oh let me.
[24:55] SPEAKER_00: Sorry I'm going to cut your comment about giving yourself time to.
[25:00] SPEAKER_00: You know feel is I'm going to share my experience of reading your blog and what it what it was like to read some of Corey's work is I saw this blog post that you know said my dead friend.
[25:14] SPEAKER_00: And I started reading your work and it immediately I had an image of a real person right and your friend because I you know because I know you I imagine what that person looks like and then and you totally took me through the whole entire story and I couldn't help a personify my own experience overlaid right because.
[25:39] SPEAKER_00: Yeah you know some tragedy trauma happens to us all but I could I was totally into the feeling of what was going on for you and then there was like this one line at the bottom yeah just by Tony Stark and I just went oh my god the sense of relief so I can just tell you that my experience in just reading that blog post went from.
[26:04] SPEAKER_00: Hi an anxiety and and total emotion down to like total release right just just quick release of oh thank god it was Tony Stark he's talking about but I was totally in rapid so I just wanted to give a little plug that you know I just loved your style of writing totally engaging.
[26:24] SPEAKER_01: One thing about that last one my mom got me nine on one like my mom text me she said my god who died and I got a kind of messages.
[26:31] SPEAKER_01: Yeah yeah yeah before they got to the bottom no they got to the bottom they just like Tony was like they weren't doing.
[26:37] SPEAKER_00: Yeah yeah for pop culture and my kids watching Marvel comics.
[26:42] SPEAKER_00: What is it like like I'm like oh my god.
[26:44] SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
[26:47] SPEAKER_00: But I want to break it back a little bit to the entrepreneur audience here that's listening for us.
[26:52] SPEAKER_00: I mean you're based in Vancouver and you were born and raised in the area.
[26:56] SPEAKER_01: Yeah from Sir some born raising Sir.
[26:58] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[26:59] Speaker UNKNOWN: 
[26:59] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[26:59] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[26:59] Speaker UNKNOWN: 
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[27:03] SPEAKER_00: Talk me through the benefits and challenges of doing business in Vancouver from your perspective.
[27:09] SPEAKER_01: I mean the benefits of it I can start with that because I mean it's a pre it's a city where things can grow and flourish organically.
[27:20] SPEAKER_01: But there's a lot of networking so there's a lot of it's a small city.
[27:24] SPEAKER_01: Very small city and super small when you kind of when you when you really look at people in certain industries.
[27:30] SPEAKER_01: So in that sense it has a pretty little soil that plantar seeds and the try and make something of yourself for connections kind of get around the weather's agreeable so people are hesitant to go things that I've had.
[27:46] SPEAKER_01: It depends which industry I think to.
[27:48] SPEAKER_01: And.
[27:51] SPEAKER_00: Well let me ask specifically I mean whether it's in startup generally or publishing specifically.
[27:59] SPEAKER_00: What are three essential resources that you use, whether it's you know peer networking or conferences or events or business association that you turn to that you could recommend to other entrepreneurs.
[28:14] SPEAKER_01: At this point I've never I'll be quite honest that's where I'm trying to really got my teeth is in the marketing aspect getting my name over that's the hard part especially when it comes.
[28:25] SPEAKER_01: I know especially the book so it is more than a best and it's not a big stage.
[28:28] SPEAKER_01: It's not a good something we have to sit down to go to time to go to your attention.
[28:33] SPEAKER_01: But for me like I think that was some pretty good people are more on my but there are local.
[28:38] SPEAKER_01: Some of the local who's allowed me to use kind of like the social media platforms kind of like contest platforms thing like that.
[28:48] SPEAKER_01: Okay.
[28:49] SPEAKER_01: I find those to be quite good.
[28:53] SPEAKER_01: I'm still kind of getting we're still kind of playing will see it's in the city itself.
[28:57] SPEAKER_01: Is it the same time?
[28:58] SPEAKER_01: I mean we have the ability to actually know so we have the absolutely.
[29:03] SPEAKER_01: It would concurrently so if you said you're you know you're small then you're you have a small chance for a few wide and radius.
[29:12] SPEAKER_01: So we're trying like I'm kind of a multi-pronged effort to campaign.
[29:18] SPEAKER_00: Well and so let's be specific what platforms do you use the most?
[29:22] SPEAKER_01: I would use I mean like Facebook and Instagram are really good really set and check the book platforms because you can add images that you can give a quick little glare.
[29:30] SPEAKER_01: You can post links a lot of the time to places.
[29:33] SPEAKER_01: Those are good living using good reads so for office.
[29:38] SPEAKER_00: Okay good reads.
[29:39] SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
[29:39] SPEAKER_01: Okay.
[29:41] SPEAKER_01: There's a number of hammer or the names drop at my head but there's a bunch of kind of platforms you can give away free books or offer free books for reviews.
[29:51] SPEAKER_01: And then I mean then you have the big ones you have like purpose you have like friends and no you have the ones that are more just huge companies but once again you want to try and find a more niche kind of happening just so you can appeal to people who might be more likely to actually read and then actual like your material given that it's not so.
[30:13] SPEAKER_01: Going through a commercial thing can be a little pernicious for myself and reader they don't know they're going to be in the place.
[30:22] SPEAKER_00: Okay Corey how do you recharge or get inspired or even recreate yourself?
[30:28] SPEAKER_01: Oh so I like training avoid them pretty.
[30:31] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[30:32] SPEAKER_01: But like so I usually I don't remember like I said I'm ridiculously official routine based skill call so I tend to do the same thing every day.
[30:41] SPEAKER_01: I wake up usually around 7 7 30 y'all go to the gym for a couple hours come back lunch and I'll write all right no right or at a 40 business.
[30:50] SPEAKER_01: I work at the midnight jobs so I was in a restaurant and I usually be there 3 until maybe 11 or 12 and then I'll come back and work until one you see any go when I get off and what there is normally the way I recharge is I go travel so yeah I've been restaurants a while and what I would do is I usually put them.
[31:14] SPEAKER_01: I'll take a note up for me I will take my computer because I don't always go to the next places but I take a note up for two of them and then travel for like a month and a half straight.
[31:24] SPEAKER_01: Camp out in hospital to whatever and meet people have experiences getting us some nice situations come back no inspiration for your next talk right.
[31:36] SPEAKER_01: Yeah I was a deli you just kind of knew perspective and thoughts and I mean way to kind of let all those almost that that lots of thought go eggulate and just when you get back you just can't wait to kind of start writing or start doing the work and getting started and work out.
[31:52] SPEAKER_00: So traveling as a way to get recharges a perfect segue into a bit of our signature question here on this podcast if you were deserted on a beautiful tropical island with no internet and no real modern technology there was an old phone booth sitting in the corner and you can make one call for somebody come pick you up.
[32:13] SPEAKER_00: How long would you last on this island and who would you call to come pick you up.
[32:18] SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you can pick this up on your camera but I'm pretty well I don't know pretty well so I would I don't know long I lasted there is no no shade but I would probably call I'd call my mom you know.
[32:35] SPEAKER_01: I'm on the phone with these guys call her and she would you know she would she loves it is she was my brothers and I I over a lot you know I would I'd call her and she speaks me out of a jammer to when I was younger you know.
[32:52] SPEAKER_00: But I look forward to meeting your mumble day for sure.
[32:55] SPEAKER_00: Corey how what's the best way for people to connect with your post podcast.
[32:58] SPEAKER_01: Oh man I mean anyway really I mean like I said the social media so fly call from press or fly call and Instagram based on the website connect contact section.
[33:10] SPEAKER_00: Okay Corey it was fantastic having on you on Canada's podcast.
[33:15] SPEAKER_01: Thanks appreciate it.
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