How TikTok helped Sunday Glow become a 7 figure business

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[00:00] SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Canada's podcast.
[00:05] SPEAKER_02: Hi, this is Celine Williams hosting for Ontario for Canada's podcast.
[00:10] SPEAKER_02: My guest today is Celine Gua, owner and founder of Toronto based Asian Skincare Company, Sunday Glow,
[00:17] SPEAKER_02: who scaled her brand into a seven figure business in two and a half years with the help of TikTok,
[00:22] SPEAKER_02: and was recently nominated as one of TikTok's visionary voices for Asian Heritage Month in May.
[00:28] SPEAKER_02: Welcome, Celine.
[00:29] SPEAKER_02: Thank you. Thank you so much for having me, Celine.
[00:32] SPEAKER_02: This is the first time I've interviewed someone with the same name as me.
[00:35] SPEAKER_02: It's very fun for a first experience. So here we go.
[00:41] SPEAKER_02: So I'm curious to hear a little bit about your journey into, you know,
[00:47] SPEAKER_02: we're first of all, congratulations on scaling your brand.
[00:50] SPEAKER_02: But how did this come about?
[00:53] SPEAKER_02: How did you decide to become an entrepreneur?
[00:55] SPEAKER_02: No, how did Sunday glow come about? Walk me through a little bit.
[00:59] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a big question.
[01:01] SPEAKER_02: How I like to start.
[01:04] SPEAKER_01: So I think my entrepreneurial dream started when I was very young.
[01:09] SPEAKER_01: My mom started her own business in China in a very male dominated industry back in the 90s.
[01:16] SPEAKER_01: So she's always been my inspiration.
[01:19] SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I want to be better than her when I was in sixth grade.
[01:22] SPEAKER_01: So I was like, I want to start my own business.
[01:24] SPEAKER_01: But then like in university, I always had like this idea, that idea,
[01:28] SPEAKER_01: but they're just always everywhere.
[01:31] SPEAKER_01: And I joined a pageant when I was in third year university.
[01:39] SPEAKER_01: And after I was crowned with like Mr. and Toronto.
[01:41] SPEAKER_01: But then that really opened me with the opportunity of a lot of girls coming up to me,
[01:46] SPEAKER_01: asking me questions about skincare actually.
[01:49] SPEAKER_01: And I personally struggled a lot with my own skin.
[01:54] SPEAKER_01: So like I struggled with acne with blackheads, oiliness, literally tried hundreds of products until I was able to find the right solution.
[02:02] SPEAKER_01: So when the girls came to me, I was able to really share my experience.
[02:08] SPEAKER_01: And then, but I realized there wasn't like a one answer, you know, for everyone,
[02:13] SPEAKER_01: because everyone's skin is so complex and so unique.
[02:18] SPEAKER_01: And once I was able to help them, I was able to see the difference in them,
[02:23] SPEAKER_01: like not just in their skin, but also in their confidence.
[02:26] SPEAKER_01: They don't feel self conscious anymore.
[02:28] SPEAKER_01: And I know exactly how that feels.
[02:31] SPEAKER_01: So that's the moment that I've decided that I want to commit my career to beauty.
[02:36] SPEAKER_01: But at this point, I was still not sure what which area in beauty.
[02:41] SPEAKER_01: So then I became a skincare expert as a for a short time.
[02:47] SPEAKER_01: And I went to Boston University for media ventures for my graph program.
[02:52] SPEAKER_01: And from there, it was actually how the program really taught me how to formulate my thoughts,
[02:58] SPEAKER_01: how to really systemize all my business ideas coming up with, you know, customer interviews,
[03:04] SPEAKER_01: customer groups target market, and all of that fun stuff.
[03:10] SPEAKER_01: So that's when I saw a white space in the beauty industry that people are very frustrated
[03:17] SPEAKER_01: and confused with which products to use that will actually work,
[03:21] SPEAKER_01: which is exactly what I went through.
[03:23] SPEAKER_01: And that was the start of Sunday.
[03:25] SPEAKER_02: So I love that.
[03:28] SPEAKER_02: I love that you took your own experience and an opportunity when people were asking you about something
[03:35] SPEAKER_02: because of the pageant, right?
[03:36] SPEAKER_02: So you, it's always interesting when you do something and realize there is a need
[03:41] SPEAKER_02: that reflects your own need because coincidentally, people are curious, right?
[03:46] SPEAKER_02: Like women want to know what you're doing.
[03:48] Speaker UNKNOWN: 
[03:49] SPEAKER_02: So I love, it's always, I love when entrepreneurs have a story like that.
[03:55] SPEAKER_02: And there's so many of them where it's like, oh, my problem was other people's problems too.
[04:00] SPEAKER_02: That's kind of cool.
[04:02] SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
[04:02] SPEAKER_02: And I'm curious because on from the outside, I have a couple of questions.
[04:09] SPEAKER_02: I'm going to start with this one.
[04:10] SPEAKER_02: So from the outside, if you look at the beauty industry, it seems like it seems like I'm not saying this is the truth.
[04:18] SPEAKER_02: There's so much information.
[04:20] SPEAKER_02: Like it's hard to think and go, there's white space for anything because you're like,
[04:25] SPEAKER_02: oh, there seems to be as information.
[04:27] SPEAKER_02: So how did you, what was your experience?
[04:32] SPEAKER_02: To identify what that opportunity was.
[04:35] SPEAKER_02: Like how, where was that white space for you?
[04:38] SPEAKER_02: Like where was that gap?
[04:41] SPEAKER_02: And because I think that can be the challenge for entrepreneurs quite often, right?
[04:45] SPEAKER_02: From the outside, I'm like, how would you find that in beauty?
[04:48] SPEAKER_02: Everyone has everything for everything.
[04:51] SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
[04:51] SPEAKER_02: But clearly, that's not true.
[04:53] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, 100%.
[04:55] SPEAKER_01: That's actually exactly why I started our personalized mass box.
[05:00] SPEAKER_01: That's our hero product is that people are just bombarded with too much information.
[05:07] SPEAKER_01: There's literally thousands and thousands of products out there.
[05:12] SPEAKER_01: With different marketing campaigns, people are overwhelmed and frustrated.
[05:18] SPEAKER_01: So with our personalized mass box is that they will take a real, really quick skin quiz on our website.
[05:24] SPEAKER_01: And then that's all they have to do.
[05:27] SPEAKER_01: From there, our skincare expert will analyze their skin and then carry a box of solution for their skin.
[05:34] SPEAKER_01: And we specialize in Korean skincare.
[05:37] SPEAKER_01: So like the, what makes us unique is that it's personalized.
[05:41] SPEAKER_01: Is that our customers don't have to go through any trial and error anymore.
[05:45] SPEAKER_01: They don't have to waste, keep wasting money.
[05:48] SPEAKER_01: So like, and they don't have to keep wasting time on doing research and like reading through blogs and thousands of like,
[05:56] SPEAKER_01: Instagram posts and TikTok to find out which one.
[06:00] SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's saving them really a lot of time and a lot of money.
[06:05] SPEAKER_01: But I found that actually through, so that was my own personal experience.
[06:11] SPEAKER_01: And I did, I think I interviewed around 150 people on the street of Boston.
[06:19] SPEAKER_01: So like it was a customer interview really finding out what's people's pain point.
[06:23] SPEAKER_01: And I was able to verify or validate that it is a pain point for a lot of people that people go through so much trial and error when they want to find the right skincare products for their skin.
[06:36] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that is trial and error definitely seems to be the way when it comes to skincare.
[06:43] SPEAKER_02: There is just so much, so much information, so much to watch.
[06:48] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's not tailored, right?
[06:50] SPEAKER_02: It's like, and everyone speaks in these generalizations so that absolutely makes sense.
[06:58] SPEAKER_02: So I'm curious when you decided to focus on beauty in some way, when you had that moment where you were like,
[07:08] SPEAKER_02: I'm going to beauty is going to be the thing.
[07:13] SPEAKER_02: How did you decide what to study or what to pursue in that moment?
[07:18] SPEAKER_02: Because there are a lot of avenues, right? Like you can go into chemistry.
[07:26] SPEAKER_02: Like there's, you can go into chemistry to go into beauty.
[07:29] SPEAKER_02: You can go into makeup.
[07:30] SPEAKER_02: You can, there's, you know, again, lots of options.
[07:35] SPEAKER_02: And recognizing that you chose to do an entrepreneurship as a choice of study.
[07:41] SPEAKER_02: But what, what, what did that come down to for you?
[07:46] SPEAKER_01: For me, if I understand you correctly, it's more just my love for business overall.
[07:53] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I love coming up with strategy.
[07:56] SPEAKER_01: I love coming up with a really able to accurately identify that pain point and coming up with a solution for it.
[08:05] SPEAKER_01: And in terms of skincare, it's just like always being my own passion, like my own experience with that, like, be able to really embrace my own skin and not having to not there's anything wrong with makeup, obviously.
[08:19] SPEAKER_01: I still wear makeup for sure, but just like be able to really glow from, from, from, from, from inside all.
[08:29] SPEAKER_01: Yes, really embracing my own skin. Yeah.
[08:32] SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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[08:42] SPEAKER_02: I appreciate that because there are, there are people who, and I would call them technical founders who would have gone the chemistry route and then found a business partner.
[08:54] SPEAKER_02: Right. And so I ask because knowing that our audience, a lot of them are entrepreneurs or want to be entrepreneurs, they want to start a business.
[09:02] SPEAKER_02: If they are the type that's like, I would, like, I would have gone for the chemistry piece. That's also okay. Right. Because there are people like you, yeah, who are interested in the strategy.
[09:13] SPEAKER_02: So I'm always curious about how you make that decision because people struggle with that.
[09:17] SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah. That will make a killer team, a co-founder of a chemist and a business person.
[09:23] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[09:23] SPEAKER_01: So this is my own interest, my own passion for business.
[09:26] SPEAKER_01: As I said, since I was little, I wanted to start my own business.
[09:30] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[09:31] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[09:34] SPEAKER_02: So knowing that you used TikTok, what drew you to take?
[09:39] SPEAKER_02: So how did you, let's start there?
[09:41] SPEAKER_02: Why TikTok? How did you decide on that?
[09:44] SPEAKER_01: Yeah. When I started TikTok, I think it was, so like in October, we turned four, our four year anniversary.
[09:51] SPEAKER_01: I started it maybe at the three and a half, like three and a half years ago.
[09:56] SPEAKER_01: So there was half a year that I, like, when I first started, built a website by myself.
[10:01] SPEAKER_01: And there was absolutely no traffic to the website.
[10:04] SPEAKER_01: There was, um, so I was trying, um, a lot of different marketing channels, like posting on Reddit, saying that, hey, I found this new skincare brand as a customer.
[10:15] SPEAKER_01: And then people will call me, you'll be like, this, this sounds like an ad.
[10:19] SPEAKER_01: And then I'll do like five, five dollar daily budget on Facebook, um, manager.
[10:26] SPEAKER_01: And I'll do just also, like all sorts of other types of marketing channels.
[10:32] SPEAKER_01: And none of them really worked.
[10:34] SPEAKER_01: And that's when I was like really, really lost.
[10:37] SPEAKER_01: I was questioning myself every day. Like, is this not a good idea?
[10:40] SPEAKER_01: How come I spent so much effort on the website and nobody cares about it?
[10:44] SPEAKER_01: Obviously nobody cares because people don't know about it.
[10:47] SPEAKER_01: Right.
[10:47] SPEAKER_01: And that's when I realized the importance of marketing, really getting people, like, doesn't matter.
[10:53] SPEAKER_01: Of course, it matters. But in the very beginning, you have to get the words out first.
[10:57] SPEAKER_01: And that's when TikTok started, because TikTok, um, originated from, from, from China.
[11:04] SPEAKER_01: And I know that it's huge in China.
[11:06] SPEAKER_01: But then that's when TikTok started blowing up in North America.
[11:09] SPEAKER_01: And that kind of was like, maybe this is an opportunity.
[11:12] SPEAKER_01: Um, people are all seizing, seizing the opportunity in China.
[11:15] SPEAKER_01: Maybe I should try it here.
[11:16] SPEAKER_01: So I just started posting because that was literally like my only kind of resource left after trying different channels.
[11:26] SPEAKER_01: And then feeling so frustrated.
[11:28] SPEAKER_01: So I put all my effort and all my time onto, um, content creation.
[11:33] SPEAKER_01: I started posting a video every day.
[11:37] SPEAKER_01: And in the beginning, it was like hundreds of views for, for each video.
[11:41] SPEAKER_01: It wasn't really like picking up.
[11:43] SPEAKER_01: But I kind of just like the more content I make, the more, um, like,
[11:49] SPEAKER_01: because in the beginning, there was like really nothing to tell other than my own story.
[11:54] SPEAKER_01: Right.
[11:54] SPEAKER_01: Like I don't know anything else.
[11:56] SPEAKER_01: Like I, all I can do is show me my own story, being authentic with my audience, my few hundreds followers.
[12:03] SPEAKER_01: And then, um, the, I still remember the first video that I was like, oh my god, I want viral.
[12:09] SPEAKER_01: It was like five thousand views.
[12:11] SPEAKER_01: And then now, um, just like building up from there slowly and slowly.
[12:17] SPEAKER_01: Just with like being genuine and authentic with my audience.
[12:22] SPEAKER_01: Now we're at 580 K followers on TikTok.
[12:27] SPEAKER_01: And, and with those such, such an amazing community.
[12:30] SPEAKER_01: Everyone is super, super supportive.
[12:33] SPEAKER_01: We call it, we call it glow family.
[12:36] SPEAKER_01: And everyone's so nice on TikTok.
[12:38] SPEAKER_01: And they're really there to support, um, to support me.
[12:42] SPEAKER_01: And like my small business journey and, um, yeah, I absolutely love my whole experience and my whole journey.
[12:51] SPEAKER_02: Do you talk about, um, on TikTok?
[12:57] SPEAKER_02: Obviously you talk about skincare.
[12:58] SPEAKER_02: Um, duh.
[13:01] SPEAKER_02: Um, but do you also talk about your journey as a business owner or is, yeah.
[13:08] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
[13:09] SPEAKER_01: So I kind of, sorry, did I stop you?
[13:12] SPEAKER_01: No, no, go ahead, go ahead.
[13:14] SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, I talk about my, that's like one part of being just authentic.
[13:20] SPEAKER_01: Like if I made any mistakes, um, because I feel like a lot of businesses is very, um, I feel like just from the whole.
[13:27] SPEAKER_01: Whole, um, history and like being like making the marketing campaigns, everything's very pot, the pot polished.
[13:35] SPEAKER_01: Everything is very, you know, perfect.
[13:38] SPEAKER_01: So, so I want to be, but then like being in business, being an entrepreneur, like there's actually a lot more failures than success.
[13:48] SPEAKER_01: Like we're facing failures, small failures every day, but also small success every day.
[13:52] SPEAKER_01: So I like I share my failures, what I've done wrong.
[13:55] SPEAKER_01: So like maybe someone a girl out there trying to start her own business and she can learn from my lesson.
[14:01] SPEAKER_01: And so she doesn't have to, um, we seem with money on the things that, the mistake that I made.
[14:07] SPEAKER_01: Um, so like I share a lot of my mistakes, my failures, um, but at this time, my accomplishments, accomplishments, like anything basically I share my whole entrepreneurial journey, my whole story, my own experience as an immigrant.
[14:22] SPEAKER_01: And here and, um, and, and, and yeah.
[14:27] SPEAKER_01: And obviously there's like skincare content, educational content. Yeah.
[14:32] SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
[14:33] SPEAKER_02: Um, I appreciate you sharing that because to your point, especially with marketing, a lot of people, early on, and I will say, you know, the, you know, early on in business, even more so.
[14:48] SPEAKER_02: But even later on, people stock themselves from sharing those things, right?
[14:53] SPEAKER_02: Like they think it has to be that polished, perfect campaign beginning to end.
[14:59] SPEAKER_02: And, um, and it doesn't.
[15:05] SPEAKER_02: And there's something to be said for it not being that.
[15:07] SPEAKER_02: And I appreciate you sharing that because I think that that is a more people need to talk about the fact that it isn't always and doesn't have to be.
[15:18] SPEAKER_02: This perfectly curated campaign, there's something to be shed to something to be said for sharing, you know, the good, bad and ugly of it all.
[15:26] SPEAKER_02: And that you can still build a community and a following and maybe an even more engaged community when you do that.
[15:33] SPEAKER_01: Yes, more loyal community as well. Like we're here for the true self. Like they tell us, I mean, they might, might, might, might, might, might, might.
[15:41] SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a big part of the, um, community, my friends and my family, like they tell me about their struggle, like when I go on TikTok live is literally like a girl's time.
[15:49] SPEAKER_01: Like we, we get like a glass of wine and then like I talk about my products, I talk about my own story, they talk about what they're struggling with.
[15:56] SPEAKER_01: Like we're here for each other. Yeah, yeah, that, I think that's amazing.
[16:00] SPEAKER_02: And I love you sharing that because there's people who.
[16:03] SPEAKER_02: You know, they're like, I'm not going to join TikTok because I'm not going to create that whatever number of perfectly curated videos every day.
[16:11] SPEAKER_02: And it's like, it doesn't always have to be that. And I think the more we talk about other ways of marketing and other approaches, the more it opens up for people.
[16:23] SPEAKER_02: So I'm curious since you mentioned that you share about your failures as well. What has been the biggest failure or lesson has let's, I'm always happy to repay me as lessons.
[16:34] SPEAKER_02: That, that you have learned inside of your time as an entrepreneur.
[16:42] SPEAKER_01: That's a great question. I don't know if I'm able to rank it right away.
[16:47] SPEAKER_02: Not okay. I mean, I asked that as a rank. It doesn't have to be ranked.
[16:52] SPEAKER_01: The first one that I could think of is like the one that I literally just went through yesterday, not being able to count inventory daily.
[17:04] SPEAKER_01: Like with, like being a business owner, you have to be really well rounded with different departments, especially in the beginning as a startup.
[17:13] SPEAKER_01: Like I'm doing everything, not everything, but like lots of things by myself.
[17:18] SPEAKER_01: And we were like, we, we kind of oversold because of me, my mistake of not counting inventory daily and my mom has been reminding me all the time.
[17:30] SPEAKER_01: But I'm just like, okay, I'll just push it off, push it off. But then until one day that, you know, we oversold. And this is actually a mistake that I made two years ago.
[17:43] SPEAKER_01: Happened as well. So like that's definitely it's a very practical mistake. Yeah, listen.
[17:50] SPEAKER_05: Something else, let me think.
[17:57] SPEAKER_02: And, you know, while you're thinking, I'll just comment. I think that the, the reality, when you have, when you have stock and you have anything that is practical, right?
[18:09] SPEAKER_02: So for I run a service based business, I don't have stock. But if I'm not, you know, tracking financials in some way, if I'm not uploading in all those like administrative things happen in every business.
[18:21] SPEAKER_02: And when you're a founder, it's never, that's not the fun stuff that you want to be doing. You know, I want to be doing it.
[18:27] SPEAKER_02: That's such a common experience. I say that because even if it's not inventory, I think we can all relate to not wanting to do some form of admin.
[18:40] Speaker UNKNOWN: Yeah, yeah.
[18:44] SPEAKER_01: Definitely not the most fun stuff to do. But it's just something that I have to get done. Yeah.
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[19:02] SPEAKER_02: Maybe instead of like a failure, what has been the like if you were to start your business again, you were to start a business, whether it's this one or another one.
[19:12] SPEAKER_02: What are some of the things you would absolutely do from the get go that you're like, this is a, I've learned this. This is a must do. I do this or something that you're like, not worth the time.
[19:24] SPEAKER_02: Absolutely would not do again.
[19:26] SPEAKER_05: Wow, that's another great question. Let me think. Let me think.
[19:32] Speaker UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[19:33] SPEAKER_01: I think the first question, what I would absolutely get done in the beginning will be the very first thing I worked on Sunday, global was the website building my own website.
[19:50] SPEAKER_01: And at that point, it was something that I just picked up myself. I wanted to, you know, strap the whole thing. I only invested $200 in the beginning.
[20:03] SPEAKER_01: So like I didn't want to hire anyone to do it. But I think if I were to start another business, I would obviously I'll still do it. I'll still like get myself a millionaire with it.
[20:17] SPEAKER_01: So I know what's good, what's bad at least when I hire someone to do it. But like having an optimized website is crucial.
[20:25] SPEAKER_01: When I built it like that way, when you drive traffic to the website, your conversion rate is going to be higher. But then when I built it myself, even with the website that we're using right now, is still the one that I built before.
[20:38] SPEAKER_01: Like we're working on new website and you optimize the website. But, but, but without an optimized website, like the traffic you drive there sometimes is a little bit wasted because I didn't know where to put what like for my testimony, I placed it at the very end.
[21:01] SPEAKER_01: But then like with skincare, people want to see what's the result after using the products. So like now we're placing it in the like right after the banner.
[21:10] SPEAKER_01: Right. So small detail things like that. I think someone with experience will be a lot will be a great help.
[21:22] SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so for the second question, you said is, could you remind me something that I wouldn't?
[21:29] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something that you wouldn't do it that you're like would not do that again. That was either a waste of time or didn't turn out the way I wanted it to.
[21:40] SPEAKER_01: I think that would be wasting my time overthinking whether or not this is a good idea.
[21:49] SPEAKER_01: So like after I started TikTok, I realized that the best feedback, the best advice that I could get for my business is from my audience.
[21:58] SPEAKER_01: Get a post it first, get it out there first, even if you don't think it's a perfect idea is never going to be perfect.
[22:06] SPEAKER_01: So like get it out there and then your audience, even if it's only exposed to 10 people, they will let you know they will make a comment on whether or not they like it.
[22:19] SPEAKER_01: And then you can keep changing it because sometimes like the like I asked my audience for for for for for you know a decision that I'm trying to make, which box design that I like better, I would think about it like on my own refine each option for you know weeks.
[22:38] SPEAKER_01: But then the answer that they give me is completely different from my own preference.
[22:44] SPEAKER_01: So like really getting the even if anyone wants to start a business out there, like even if you have a not so perfect idea that you don't really like you're not sure where to go.
[22:58] SPEAKER_01: But it all their first make a content you don't even have to buy any inventory at that point don't need to invest a single dollar put it all there and then hear back from your community.
[23:09] SPEAKER_02: I love that because I think quite often people are so focused on I have to have it all perfect and set up for delivery without ever validating what it's going to be.
[23:20] SPEAKER_02: And I think putting the idea out there and seeing that there's demand for it in some way that people want it or are interested.
[23:30] SPEAKER_02: I think that's such great advice and we it's tough for entrepreneurs because everyone wants it to be perfect before it's out there and it's like it's not going to be perfect even when it is out there so.
[23:40] SPEAKER_01: But I totally understand it's scary like having an idea just like completely out there and then trying to see if it's going to be validated trying to see if there's even a demand and getting like the harsh feedback from the you know from from from the internet at that point like because these people don't know who you are.
[23:59] SPEAKER_01: It's scary can be very, very scary but it's kind of like a fear of failure that entrepreneurs just have to overcome.
[24:10] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[24:13] SPEAKER_02: Before we wrap up I want to ask is there anything that you.
[24:20] SPEAKER_02: You know that if you could say anything to an aspiring entrepreneur who's listening to this who's thinking about getting started.
[24:29] SPEAKER_02: What would what would you say to them what would you have wanted to hear when you were first like maybe I want to be an entrepreneur what is that going to be.
[24:40] SPEAKER_01: I think I will say don't question yourself don't let self doubt stop you from whatever you want to do.
[24:48] SPEAKER_01: In the beginning like I said mentioned that half a year was really really tough for me every day just like.
[24:54] SPEAKER_01: Really question question yourself and many points I wanted to give up I wanted to but if I did at that point then Sunday will wouldn't exist today.
[25:05] SPEAKER_01: So like don't ever let self doubt stop you and be resilient because we as entrepreneurs we need that blind faith on ourself if nobody else believes in us we have to be the one that believes in ourselves and be resilient don't give up.
[25:25] SPEAKER_01: I love that.
[25:27] SPEAKER_02: Thank you for sharing that I think that's I think that is great advice.
[25:31] SPEAKER_02: Thank you so for our listeners or viewers depending how you're seeing this you can find out more about Sunday glow at their website at Sunday dash for hyphen glow dot com it'll be linked in the show notes.
[25:44] SPEAKER_02: And you can find Selena and tick tocks tick tocks at Selene glow and her Instagram is Sunday glow beauty and to all the listeners and viewers thanks for listening to can is podcast like comment and subscribe to all our channel to get.
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