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[01:01] SPEAKER_00: Hello, this is Robert Smile coming to today with VanCoovers Podcast, a member of
[01:06] SPEAKER_00: the Canada's Podcast Network. Where we talk to the entrepreneurs who are making
[01:11] SPEAKER_00: it happen here in Vancouver, British Columbia.
[01:14] SPEAKER_00: Brain Parker is co-founder of Casca Footwear, an innovative startup developing all day
[01:22] SPEAKER_00: performance shoes for future builders. In the past year, Braden has moved from
[01:28] SPEAKER_00: real estate asset manager to co-founder of a bootstrapped venture looking to
[01:34] SPEAKER_00: challenge the global footwear giants. Well, Braden, welcome to the show.
[01:40] SPEAKER_00: Thanks for taking the time today to be here for all our listeners.
[01:43] SPEAKER_00: Thanks Robert, I'm excited to be here. Great, okay, I want you to tell us a little
[01:48] SPEAKER_00: bit more about yourself, where you're from, and give us the details on your current business.
[01:53] SPEAKER_01: Cool, so in a nutshell, I grew up in a small town just outside Calgary. I spent a
[01:59] SPEAKER_01: short stint in California and got the West Coast bug and came out here for a
[02:05] SPEAKER_01: school at UBC about 10 years ago, fell in love with Vancouver, and convinced that I
[02:10] SPEAKER_01: will be here for the rest of time. So now I'm co-founding Casca Footwear, and you did a
[02:17] SPEAKER_01: great job on the intro. We're a shoe company for future builders, so essentially
[02:23] SPEAKER_01: we've tried to take all the best technology from hiking and running shoes and
[02:27] SPEAKER_01: put it into an everyday shoe that can be worn in any environment and social setting.
[02:32] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so it's kind of made for the Vancouver lifestyle, correct? That's right, that's
[02:35] SPEAKER_01: actually where a lot of the inspiration came from. Tired of having white feet,
[02:40] SPEAKER_01: being going from business meeting to going to do the gross grind to sort of
[02:45] SPEAKER_00: this that and the other thing. Right, so it fits that Casual West Coast lifestyle.
[02:50] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Now, did you need financing to start your company, and how do you
[02:55] SPEAKER_01: currently make money in the business now? So we're pretty proud of ourselves. We,
[03:01] SPEAKER_01: I'm a huge fan of the book The Lean Startup by Eric Rees, and so we bootstrap for as long
[03:06] SPEAKER_01: as we possibly could, and that took us to about three months ago when we finally needed
[03:14] SPEAKER_01: to actually do a friends and family round. And then we've done a bunch of pre-orders,
[03:18] SPEAKER_01: and now we're doing a seed raise. So that's sort of where we are on the financing front,
[03:24] SPEAKER_01: in terms of making money selling shoes only on our website. Okay, so you're not going to be going
[03:30] SPEAKER_01: into the retail? No, so we're online direct consumer, and the benefit of that is really we can
[03:35] SPEAKER_01: provide a more premium product at a lower price for customers. Okay, now what is the long-term vision,
[03:43] SPEAKER_00: and what will your company look like in the future? Do you see the company expanding into other
[03:47] SPEAKER_01: areas and where beyond Vancouver, BC, or even Canada? You know, I see Casca as a living example
[03:55] SPEAKER_01: of how you can use a product to share a much larger purpose. So for us, we really have this
[04:02] SPEAKER_01: ingrained why within our company of helping those support. We want to be a supporter for those
[04:09] SPEAKER_01: that are shaping a bright future. So we might not be able to build the next best spaceship,
[04:14] SPEAKER_01: but we can provide footwear for those that do. So ultimately to us, that means we want to be a
[04:20] SPEAKER_01: globally recognized brand for supporting these movers and shakers. Okay, so that means you're going
[04:27] SPEAKER_00: to be competing directly against the Nike's of the world, the Reeboks, the new balances?
[04:33] SPEAKER_00: Eventually. Okay, so that's the goal. That's the goal. Good, okay. So in Vancouver is a very
[04:41] SPEAKER_00: unique place to do business. What are the biggest benefits for you in being an entrepreneur here in
[04:46] SPEAKER_00: Vancouver, BC, aside from designing the shoe around that? Give us some of the good points about
[04:51] SPEAKER_00: starting a company here, but I also want you to give us some of the tough things or challenges
[04:55] SPEAKER_00: for our listeners so they can keep it out for them. I would say the best thing is the lifestyle here.
[05:04] SPEAKER_01: You're able to go out and get outside and rather than going out and doing around a golf
[05:11] SPEAKER_01: like a lot of places, instead a lot of people will go and do the grouse grind. People are really aware
[05:15] SPEAKER_01: of the importance of having this work life balance. And I think that's just an amazing aspect,
[05:23] SPEAKER_01: an amazing part of Vancouver that everyone is aligned on. I haven't seen any other city with so
[05:28] SPEAKER_01: many people outside when the sun comes out than Vancouver. Another really cool thing about
[05:35] SPEAKER_01: Vancouver, I would say is the tight-knit community of entrepreneurs and people that are starting stuff
[05:40] SPEAKER_01: here. Everyone is really supportive of each other and it's a really, really cool community to meet
[05:47] SPEAKER_01: people in. Okay, and some of the tough things. Some of the tough things, the rain. I can find the
[05:54] SPEAKER_01: rain to be a big pain. You get used to it. I grew up in Alberta where it's so sunny all the time.
[06:00] SPEAKER_01: So the rain is tough. And I think it can sometimes be, it can be hard to get into that tight-knit
[06:06] SPEAKER_01: community because it is pretty small. Once you go in and start meeting people and asking for
[06:12] SPEAKER_01: coffees and sort of networking, it happens. But you still have to take that initiative to go in
[06:18] SPEAKER_00: and find those people. Okay, now we do some of our best work outside the office. Is there a place
[06:24] SPEAKER_00: in the lower mainland close to where you live or work, where you like to go recharge or get
[06:28] SPEAKER_00: inspired with ideas or just think about your business and does it change with the season
[06:33] SPEAKER_01: considering all the rain we get here? Yeah, I would say everywhere outside is where I like to go.
[06:42] SPEAKER_01: And the season fully impacts that. In the summer, I like to go rock climbing, and mountain biking,
[06:48] SPEAKER_01: and running, and swimming in kits pool. I live in kits. So to me, those are all awesome ways to
[06:54] SPEAKER_01: just recharge and kind of just reset. And then in the winter, I do a lot of backcountry skiing.
[06:59] SPEAKER_01: And I also like to go surfing. So those are kind of my winter sports. And then in the summer,
[07:04] SPEAKER_00: I'll do all the other ones. Okay, now I want you to imagine you never have been to Vancouver before.
[07:11] SPEAKER_00: If you were to start all over again and you just moved here to Vancouver BC, but this time you
[07:15] SPEAKER_00: don't know anyone, knowing what you know now, what would you do and how would you go about starting
[07:20] SPEAKER_01: all over again as an entrepreneur? I would probably say the best thing you could do is
[07:29] SPEAKER_01: go and work one day of the week at one of the different co-working spaces. People are super friendly
[07:36] SPEAKER_01: there. I think that'd be a really good way to sort of get your network up, meet people and sort of
[07:41] SPEAKER_01: see what spaces you like and also end up making a lot of friends probably through the same process.
[07:47] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so like launch academy hive places like that? Yeah, launch academy hive, work lab.
[07:54] SPEAKER_01: Um, um, we work I know is now downtown. Um, sweet genius is a good one. A lot of those.
[08:04] SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's talk a little bit about your routine. What does the first hour look like for you
[08:09] SPEAKER_00: when you get up in the morning? Do you have a specific routine or a ritual that helps you get
[08:13] SPEAKER_01: motivated to start your day? I have a pretty, I'm definitely a type A personality. Um, I get up at
[08:20] SPEAKER_01: 5.30 every morning. I make my smoothie the night before, which a lot of people might find groves,
[08:25] SPEAKER_01: but I'll wake up, walk to the fridge, make coffee while my coffee is brewing. I'll just
[08:29] SPEAKER_01: chug my smoothie. Uh, then I sit down and sort of take half an hour to read the news and catch up
[08:35] SPEAKER_01: on a few different newsletters that I follow. Uh, and then I'll take about 10 minutes to just
[08:40] SPEAKER_01: journal and just like whatever's in my head and try to choose three things that I'm really focused
[08:46] SPEAKER_00: on getting done that day. Okay, so these are the main things you want to accomplish. I believe
[08:53] SPEAKER_00: yeah, that's a formula. You've got that formula from someone, right? Is that one of the things? Yeah,
[08:58] SPEAKER_01: yeah. So I, I guess there's everyone I've talked to or I've tried to make it a point to meet with
[09:04] SPEAKER_01: people that are, um, you know, seeing a lot of success. And the common theme that I always kept
[09:11] SPEAKER_01: hearing was this idea of really reviewing your goals and, and what you're doing to get to your
[09:19] SPEAKER_01: final vision and being really aware of that and writing it down. So to me, like the writing it
[09:25] SPEAKER_01: down aspect is like, okay, what did I do today to help casca get further ahead than it was yesterday
[09:29] SPEAKER_01: and having them be actionable things that I can really just like focus on and know that like,
[09:33] SPEAKER_01: if I get these three things done today, then it was a good day. Okay. And then the other
[09:40] SPEAKER_00: auxiliary things is, is how do you avoid the distractions then from your goals? How do I avoid
[09:46] SPEAKER_01: the distractions? I always try to, so I, I, I start long term and so I'll look at my goals from a
[09:52] SPEAKER_01: 10-year basis and then I look at them at a five-year basis, three-year, one-year, six-month, one-month,
[10:00] SPEAKER_01: and then one-week basis. So it's like kind of looking further down the line like, hey, what do I
[10:06] SPEAKER_01: envision happening in 10 years? And then making sure that what I'm doing today is contributing
[10:12] SPEAKER_01: to that, that just keeps me really focused and motivated on moving forward. Okay. Now, do you think
[10:19] SPEAKER_00: entrepreneurs have to be weird or unique in a positive way or are wired differently?
[10:26] SPEAKER_01: I don't know. I think that everyone is able to do whatever they want. I think if someone has a
[10:33] SPEAKER_01: strong enough vision for something, regardless of the type of person you are and you're serious about
[10:38] SPEAKER_01: seeing it out, then you can go and do that. I think the entrepreneurs that we hear about are often
[10:45] SPEAKER_01: portrayed as being wired differently. And I don't know if that's just because the media likes to
[10:49] SPEAKER_01: pick up on it. But I, I don't think so. I think that anybody can be an entrepreneur.
[10:55] SPEAKER_01: He just got to set their goals to it. Yeah, I think they just have to have like a strong idea of
[11:00] SPEAKER_01: what they want and go for it. Anything go a lot to people. And I don't know if that's maybe, I mean,
[11:07] SPEAKER_01: I don't, maybe that's weird or unique. But I would like to believe that anybody can go and take on
[11:13] SPEAKER_01: any entrepreneurial venture that they want to. Okay. And her, herds them to. Right. Okay. Now,
[11:20] SPEAKER_00: what books are you reading now and why are even audiobooks and can you recommend any books for our
[11:26] SPEAKER_01: listeners who are also aspiring entrepreneurs? Audio book wise. So I listened to one audiobook and
[11:32] SPEAKER_01: I also read a book. So whenever I'm commuting or going anywhere, I listen to an audiobook and then
[11:37] SPEAKER_01: you sort of in the evening before I'm winding down, I'll be reading. So I'm listening to an
[11:42] SPEAKER_01: audiobook called Multipliers by Liz Weisman and Greg McKeon. And it's really about sort of how you can
[11:51] SPEAKER_01: manage people properly and turn them into sort of this, turn them into leaders and have a culture
[11:56] SPEAKER_01: of leadership and of sort of forward progress, I guess you could say. So that's what I'm listening to.
[12:07] SPEAKER_01: And then I'm reading Meditations, which is sort of a book on stoicism. So Marcus Arraileus was sort of
[12:12] SPEAKER_01: the first guy that wrote down this, he's kind of this for the first book you'd read if you wanted to
[12:18] SPEAKER_01: or more about stoicism. And in terms of recommendations, the number one book that I always recommend to
[12:27] SPEAKER_01: my friends or anybody who is interested is Start With Why by Simon Sinek.
[12:32] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that book has just had a huge impact on everything that
[12:38] SPEAKER_01: Casca has done. Like we really started from this idea of how do we create a shoe that's bigger than
[12:43] SPEAKER_01: just a shoe company? How do we give back to society and have a bigger impact on people?
[12:50] SPEAKER_01: And it also, like not only can you do that for a company, but you can also do it for yourself.
[12:54] SPEAKER_01: So once you sort of take a really deep internal look of why you're doing what you're doing,
[12:58] SPEAKER_00: you learn a lot about yourself. Right. Now what online or offline tools do you use on a daily basis?
[13:05] SPEAKER_01: This could be like Google Docs Skype. Yeah, yeah. Slack I use with Casca a lot. That's kind of how
[13:13] SPEAKER_01: we communicate and keep everything. Email obviously and Google Drive. We use to store everything
[13:22] SPEAKER_01: in terms of other offline tools. I'm a huge fan of Six Sigma, which is the idea of asking why
[13:28] SPEAKER_01: six times to sort of dig down to the root of a problem. And then the sort of mindset of
[13:37] SPEAKER_01: abundance and creativity in general, I think is really an important one. I don't like the idea of
[13:46] SPEAKER_01: saying no or of believing no right away. Like instead of going directly to know this can't happen,
[13:53] SPEAKER_01: I think it's way more important and you end up with better results if you ask how can you hit that?
[14:00] SPEAKER_01: So that sort of mindset I think is an important tool. Okay, that's interesting. Okay,
[14:06] SPEAKER_00: earlier in the interview, you talked about lifestyle and Vancouver. And naturally we have everything
[14:11] SPEAKER_00: here. Oceans, lakes, rivers, trails, grass, grind, skiing, you name it, we got it. How do you
[14:17] SPEAKER_00: balance work and how do you relax and not think about work? And what are your favorite activities to
[14:22] SPEAKER_00: do here in BC? Do you ski by kayak golf hike or simply go for a drive? Yeah, you know what? I do
[14:28] SPEAKER_01: everything that I can. I do the grass grind at least once a week. I'm not afraid to like leave
[14:35] SPEAKER_01: early to go for a rock climb or leave early to go for a mountain bike or I think that one of the most
[14:41] SPEAKER_01: cool things of Vancouver is this environment that we have. And I've found that some of my best ideas
[14:46] SPEAKER_01: are actually when I'm running on the seawall or swimming at Kits pool or you know surfing on the
[14:54] SPEAKER_01: island. Like that's when I find everything sort of comes in and yeah. You create ideas come
[15:03] SPEAKER_00: because you're in this kind of beautiful environment, whether you're surfing or up in Tafino or
[15:08] SPEAKER_00: your camping or just exactly. The free flow of ideas, right? Yeah, natural feeling of just,
[15:14] SPEAKER_00: it's nothing inhibiting you. There's not an acupacol, you're just kind of in the zone.
[15:20] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly. And it's super stimulating. It's an amazing place. And I think that's why there's
[15:24] SPEAKER_01: been so many really cool impressive companies that have come out of Vancouver.
[15:29] SPEAKER_01: Right. Yeah, like you look at Arcteric's or Lululemon, Max Head Office's here,
[15:38] SPEAKER_01: Conan Bikes Head Office was here. There's a lot of really, really cool companies that have been
[15:45] SPEAKER_01: born out of Vancouver. And I'm convinced that it's due to the environment and the lifestyle.
[15:48] SPEAKER_00: I think so too. Yeah, there's a lot of outdoor activities, equipment, things like that that have
[15:52] SPEAKER_00: come out of how to be safe. Yeah. Okay, if you weren't doing what you do now, what would you like
[15:58] SPEAKER_01: to do for profession? Well, right now we're raising money and it's been fun. And I think it
[16:08] SPEAKER_01: would be really, really fun to be also on the other side of the table. I'd love to see all the
[16:13] SPEAKER_01: cool entrepreneurial ideas that other people are putting out and having the ability to go in and
[16:19] SPEAKER_01: look at their business model and their business plans and invest in other great ideas.
[16:25] SPEAKER_00: So you would like to be able to be an investor and then have people pitch to you and then kind of
[16:29] SPEAKER_00: hand pick the ones you like to work with. Yeah, that sounds pretty fun. Okay. What kind of a job would
[16:34] SPEAKER_01: you not like to do? Couldn't do it. I think that I would have a really hard time and I'm really
[16:45] SPEAKER_01: sorry to all my accountant friends out there, but I would have a hard time being an accountant.
[16:49] SPEAKER_00: That's common. I mean, that's real common with a lot of entrepreneurs that are more visionary.
[16:55] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah. I fully respect and understand the importance of accounting.
[17:00] SPEAKER_01: And the financial analysis aspect, I still quite like, but the actual sort of
[17:08] SPEAKER_01: logistical, technical aspect of accounting, I just had a very hard time with a business school.
[17:13] SPEAKER_00: Okay. In business, what is your favorite word, quote, or sentence that you like to use?
[17:20] SPEAKER_01: One that I always remind myself is it's not failure, it's feedback.
[17:24] SPEAKER_01: I think, you know, if you can look at every lesson as something that you can turn into a good thing,
[17:31] SPEAKER_01: I think that's sort of the best way you can do it. And as an entrepreneur, you're having a lot
[17:35] SPEAKER_01: of setbacks and, you know, it's not this happy-go lucky, everything's great type of situation all the time.
[17:42] SPEAKER_01: So my whole life, I've always really owned in on that one thing. Anytime that something is bad,
[17:47] SPEAKER_01: it's like, okay, what did I learn from this experience? How can I do better next time? What's the lesson?
[17:52] SPEAKER_00: And DRU always reminding yourself of that? Yeah. Yeah.
[17:57] SPEAKER_00: What is your least favorite word or sentence you do not like to hear?
[18:03] SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that there's a lot of buzzwords that have sort of ruined definitions of what would
[18:09] SPEAKER_01: otherwise be great words. So even the word goals, to be honest, it's just kind of like thrown around so
[18:16] SPEAKER_01: often and same with the words integrity or authenticity. Everyone says it and no one is truly,
[18:24] SPEAKER_01: not a lot of people at least are truly authentic when they say they are. So to me, it's almost,
[18:30] SPEAKER_01: it's not that I have a least favorite sentence or word, it's more that I dislike buzzwords that don't
[18:34] SPEAKER_00: have true meaning. Okay. If you had to pick one or two words to describe yourself, what would it be
[18:41] SPEAKER_00: and why? One or two words to describe myself. How you work, how you think, how you attack situations.
[18:56] SPEAKER_01: I would probably say creative and responsible. So I'd like to think that I take ownership over
[19:11] SPEAKER_01: anything that happens. And I also like to think that I'm a creative person that can help find
[19:19] SPEAKER_01: solutions to some of those problems. Um, one of the, a great book that I read is called Extreme Ownership.
[19:27] SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's written by this Navy SEAL. I think it's in the Draco Willink and the whole idea is that
[19:33] SPEAKER_01: you're responsible for every aspect of your life and and and business. So I that book really resonated
[19:40] SPEAKER_01: with me and and idea of you are responsible for every aspect of your life and then also that
[19:47] SPEAKER_01: in the same way you you're responsible for getting yourself out of it. And to me, I like using creativity and
[19:54] SPEAKER_00: just sort of endless possibilities. What keeps you up at night if anything?
[20:01] SPEAKER_01: I have a sleeping mask and it's incredibly dorky, but I put that thing on and I'm out like a light.
[20:08] SPEAKER_01: So I actually have never been a person who's had a hard time falling asleep. Nothing, nothing.
[20:13] SPEAKER_00: Company, where it's going, finances, nothing like that. Not really. I don't know. I'm
[20:19] SPEAKER_01: actually I do a lot of things just to make sure I can fall asleep. So waking up early is one. So I'm
[20:24] SPEAKER_01: usually tired by the time it's time to go to bed anyways. Um, and then making sure I exercise every day,
[20:30] SPEAKER_01: I journal every day, and then I usually try to go for like a meditative walk every day and and
[20:36] SPEAKER_00: just shut my brain off before I go to bed. Okay, I want you to give us the top three things on your
[20:42] SPEAKER_00: inspired lifeless. This could be a bucket list of any sort, whether you want to travel more,
[20:46] SPEAKER_00: where you want to do a TEDx talk, philanthropy, write a book. Yeah. So from a selfish perspective,
[20:55] SPEAKER_01: I've always wanted to boat down the coast and just stop on islands and surf down from Vancouver,
[21:02] SPEAKER_01: all the way down as far as I could get. From a business perspective, to me, it would mean a lot to
[21:09] SPEAKER_01: just be a mentor to other people when I after I mean success, I'd love to be a mentor and sort of
[21:15] SPEAKER_01: pay back what has happened to me. I've been very lucky to have, you know, a lot of different mentors
[21:20] SPEAKER_01: in my life and to pay that back is will be really fulfilling. So to give to give back and as a mentor,
[21:30] SPEAKER_00: to provide advice, whether it be speaking, things like that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then the third
[21:36] SPEAKER_01: one I think would be to hear about how I help someone else achieve their dream that I don't know
[21:41] SPEAKER_01: through caska. So to have caska be a vehicle for, you know, having helped someone else achieve their
[21:47] SPEAKER_00: dreams. Well, they're not, it doesn't need to be in the shoe business. Yes, yeah, right.
[21:53] SPEAKER_00: Yeah. In the industry. Okay. Do you have any advice that you may have received that you can pass
[21:58] SPEAKER_01: on to entrepreneurs throughout BC? Yeah, I would say set your goals and write them down.
[22:04] SPEAKER_01: It's such a cliche. And I know that we've been like taught that for so long.
[22:09] SPEAKER_01: But I have been doing for the last, you know, five years, it seems like university. And I look
[22:15] SPEAKER_01: back at the majority of those goals and I've either achieved them or failed and learned a ton from them.
[22:21] SPEAKER_01: And then I would even go further and recommend that you review them at least once a week.
[22:26] SPEAKER_01: So goal setting, reviewing them. Yeah, goal setting, reviewing them, resetting. So like every, so
[22:33] SPEAKER_01: this morning, it's Monday, every Monday, I'd review my one week goals and reset them and say,
[22:37] SPEAKER_01: okay, this is what this week is going to be. So like having them written down and then like the
[22:41] SPEAKER_01: sense of accomplishment that you get when you cross that goal off is just the best. It motivates
[22:47] SPEAKER_00: you to go for the next one. No, it's exactly, it's knowing they can be accomplished. Yeah. Okay,
[22:53] SPEAKER_00: Braden, are you ready to have some fun? Absolutely. Okay. Well, as you know, entrepreneurs are very,
[22:59] SPEAKER_00: very busy people. We're always connected. We always got lots on the go, but we want to take you
[23:03] SPEAKER_00: away from all that. There's a small tropical island, just off of Fiji, that only has one phone booth
[23:09] SPEAKER_00: there. There is no internet. This place does exist. We're going to drop you off there. You won't have
[23:14] SPEAKER_00: a computer or smartphone or tablet. You can use the phone booth located there any time to call the
[23:19] SPEAKER_00: boat and we'll come pick you up. How long would you last before you made that call? What would you do
[23:25] SPEAKER_01: while you were there? Well, you know, I've always wanted to do a five day silent retreat.
[23:32] SPEAKER_01: Most of my friends will probably tell you that I talk to you, so a five day retreat would probably be
[23:36] SPEAKER_01: a good before me. After that, I would probably want to spend some time inventuring and doing things.
[23:45] SPEAKER_01: I'd probably say a week. I think after a week, I'd be like, K, feeling reset, ready to go,
[23:50] SPEAKER_01: adventure. Are there waves on this island, actually? Probably. Yeah, it's an island. There's probably
[23:56] SPEAKER_01: some trees. I'd probably either try to find a surfboard or make one and then surf at least a little bit.
[24:04] SPEAKER_01: If that was successful, I could probably stay for two years. Two years? I'd go from one week to two
[24:10] SPEAKER_00: years. So he found the surfboard. He ain't coming back. We're going to be sitting out there for two
[24:15] SPEAKER_01: years because you found a surfboard? Yeah, I'm going to become a professional surfer. That's the new
[24:20] SPEAKER_01: goal if I find a surfboard and I'm on this magical island. No, I'm just joking. I would probably stay
[24:25] SPEAKER_01: for probably another week or two if I could. And then I would call if I had the surfboard. Otherwise,
[24:30] SPEAKER_00: I would probably after a week. Okay, one week. We'll call it a week. Okay, one week. Yeah. Okay,
[24:38] SPEAKER_00: well, unless the surfboard floated, unless we just kind of floated one over to you just to see what
[24:42] SPEAKER_00: kind of reaction we get, we could do that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Then it could be longer. Okay,
[24:49] SPEAKER_00: for anything you'd like to add before you leave us today. Yeah, just like to say, thank you so much
[24:54] SPEAKER_01: for putting on this podcast. It's always exciting to see them and I'm really, really honored to be on it.
[25:01] SPEAKER_01: You can email me anytime at Brayden, B-R-A-D-E-N at caskacas.com and look forward to hearing from anybody.
[25:12] SPEAKER_00: And when do you plan to launch your first shoes? When can we actually go and get them?
[25:17] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you can actually pre-order them now on our website caska.com or we're getting inventory
[25:24] SPEAKER_01: in the fall. So if you're hesitant and you want to wait until the fall, that's also fine.
[25:31] SPEAKER_00: Okay, fabulous. Well, you know what, it's been great because it's always nice to have a non-tech
[25:36] SPEAKER_00: hope or a guest on our show. So that was always nice to have. And being that your shoes are
[25:42] SPEAKER_00: made for the Vancouver right lifestyle. I'm sure that you'll get a lot of people wanting to
[25:46] SPEAKER_00: learn more about it. And I encourage you, they're beautiful looking shoes. So I encourage listeners to
[25:52] SPEAKER_00: take a look and go to the website and check things out. And please place your order. I'm sure that you
[25:57] SPEAKER_00: will be very glad you did so that you can live the true West Coast lifestyle. There you go. That's
[26:04] SPEAKER_00: right. Awesome. Thank you for coming on the show. Thanks Robert. I appreciate it. I've learned a lot
[26:08] SPEAKER_00: about you and I'm sure our listeners have as well. We'll see you next time.