Brit Garon

Episode
Brit Garon grew up in rural Ontario. He attended Western University in London Ontario, where he received a degree...
Key takeaways
- Don't get in your own head and overthink ideas—the best way to find out if something works is to put it out there and get feedback from real people.
- Schedule deliberate free time completely disconnected from work because it's easy to get consumed by your business 18 hours a day and you need to recharge your batteries.
- The Toronto entrepreneurial ecosystem offers tremendous support through meetups, resources, and hearing other founders' stories, which helps you realize you're not alone in your challenges.
- There are numerous organizations, incubators, and university-affiliated programs across Canada that can provide grant money, seed funding, and support, so entrepreneurs should never feel like they're truly on their own.
- Risk tolerance is what separates entrepreneurs—it's not about being riskier people, but having the confidence and blind faith to execute on ideas despite knowing the risks involved.
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============================================================ TRANSCRIPTION WITH SPEAKERS ============================================================ [00:00] SPEAKER_01: It's Toronto's podcast on the Canada's podcast network. [00:04] Speaker UNKNOWN: [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ [00:19] SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone, I'm Phil Bliss, a business visionary, [00:22] SPEAKER_00: and welcome to Toronto's Podcasts. [00:24] SPEAKER_00: Part of the Canada's podcast network, [00:26] SPEAKER_00: your source of the great insights [00:28] SPEAKER_00: from entrepreneurs across Canada. [00:31] SPEAKER_00: Today we were with Britt Garan. [00:34] SPEAKER_00: Britt was born and raised in the small town of Essex, Ontario, [00:37] SPEAKER_00: about 30 minutes outside of Windsor. [00:39] SPEAKER_00: He was also involved in sports, especially hockey. [00:43] SPEAKER_00: After high school, he moved to London [00:45] SPEAKER_00: and attended Western University, [00:47] SPEAKER_00: where he graduated with a degree in finance and economics. [00:50] SPEAKER_00: From Western, he moved to the GTA, [00:52] SPEAKER_00: immediately after graduations to start work at CAA. [00:56] SPEAKER_00: We're responsible to be on a team that [00:58] SPEAKER_00: helped launch their travel insurance company [01:00] SPEAKER_00: or Ryan Travel Insurance. [01:02] SPEAKER_00: From there, Britt was lured away [01:04] SPEAKER_00: by the Danish Insurance Company software [01:06] SPEAKER_00: that CAA had implemented [01:08] SPEAKER_00: and helped them to expand their North American business [01:11] SPEAKER_00: and run operations on this side of the Atlantic. [01:14] SPEAKER_00: While working for them, Britt and his roommate [01:17] SPEAKER_00: had the idea that we're growing to what has become scholarly. [01:22] SPEAKER_00: They started working on a scholarly, [01:23] SPEAKER_00: about two years ago, [01:25] SPEAKER_00: officially launching out the student platform [01:27] SPEAKER_00: in September 2017. [01:31] SPEAKER_00: Scholarship has grown since then into a suicide marketplace. [01:35] SPEAKER_00: On the student side, students create a profile [01:37] SPEAKER_00: and based on that information, [01:39] SPEAKER_00: they get matched to scholarships they are eligible for. [01:42] SPEAKER_00: On the other side, the platform allows any individual [01:45] SPEAKER_00: or organization or school to easily start [01:48] SPEAKER_00: and manage their scholarship programs. [01:51] SPEAKER_00: Since launching, they have over 45,000 students signed up [01:55] SPEAKER_00: and using the platform. [01:58] SPEAKER_00: Britt has lived in the downtown Coruff Toronto for over seven years [02:01] SPEAKER_00: and will soon be moving out to Oakville, [02:04] SPEAKER_00: that well-known suburb. [02:06] SPEAKER_00: So Britt, how did you actually get started? [02:09] SPEAKER_00: You know, tell us a little bit about how you became [02:10] SPEAKER_00: an entrepreneur and your journey to get where you are now. [02:14] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my plan was never to become an entrepreneur. [02:17] SPEAKER_01: I was born in a small town in Southern Ontario, [02:21] SPEAKER_01: Essex, about 7,000 people. [02:23] SPEAKER_01: After high school moved to London to go to Western for four years, [02:27] SPEAKER_01: then moved to the GTA to work. [02:29] SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I thought I'd have a pretty traditional path, [02:31] SPEAKER_01: but I was very fortunate that in my first job, [02:34] SPEAKER_01: I got put on a small team to actually launch a company [02:37] SPEAKER_01: within a larger organization. [02:40] SPEAKER_01: Really enjoyed the experience of working with a small team. [02:43] SPEAKER_01: From there, I moved to an even smaller team [02:45] SPEAKER_01: to help a Danish company run their North American operations. [02:51] SPEAKER_01: Enjoyed that. [02:52] SPEAKER_01: And then, yeah, finally had the idea for Scholar Tree [02:55] SPEAKER_01: and started out by then, roommate at the time. [02:59] SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't really a plan. [03:01] SPEAKER_01: It was just kind of, you know, you find what you like. [03:04] SPEAKER_01: You keep moving towards it. [03:05] SPEAKER_01: And, yeah, ended up at Scholar Tree. [03:08] SPEAKER_01: Just a team of two decided to start building it out of our apartment. [03:12] SPEAKER_00: So what does Scholar Tree do exactly? [03:16] SPEAKER_01: Yeah. Scholar Tree is an online marketplace for scholarships. [03:19] SPEAKER_01: We try to just make the scholarship program [03:22] SPEAKER_01: a process more efficient for both students [03:24] SPEAKER_01: and organizations or individuals looking to offer scholarships. [03:28] SPEAKER_01: So in the student side, we help students find [03:31] SPEAKER_01: and apply to scholarships. [03:32] SPEAKER_01: What they do is they create a detailed profile. [03:34] SPEAKER_01: Based on the information they provide us, [03:36] SPEAKER_01: we match them to scholarships they're eligible to. [03:39] SPEAKER_01: And then, just give them the tools [03:40] SPEAKER_01: to easily apply directly online. [03:43] SPEAKER_01: And then for organizations or individuals, [03:46] SPEAKER_01: we want to create a platform that made it very easy [03:49] SPEAKER_01: to start in Manjus Scholarship Program [03:52] SPEAKER_01: to increase the amount of scholarship money available [03:54] SPEAKER_01: to Canadian students. [03:56] SPEAKER_00: So, you know, small time guy, Katronto, [04:01] SPEAKER_00: what are the benefits of doing business in Toronto? [04:04] SPEAKER_00: And what are the challenges of doing business in Toronto? [04:07] SPEAKER_01: Yeah. Great question. [04:09] SPEAKER_01: And the benefits are definitely the ecosystem [04:11] SPEAKER_01: that exists for entrepreneurs within Toronto. [04:14] SPEAKER_01: There's so many different resources you can access for help. [04:17] SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it just meetups and hearing other people's stories. [04:20] SPEAKER_01: I find when I am starting to get a little bit discouraged [04:24] SPEAKER_01: or, you know, in my own head, [04:25] SPEAKER_01: going out and talking to other entrepreneurs [04:27] SPEAKER_01: and hearing their stories of problems they're dealing with, [04:29] SPEAKER_01: just uplift me because you feel like you're not alone. [04:33] SPEAKER_01: So I would say, yeah, just the ecosystem [04:34] SPEAKER_01: and the amount of business that's done in Toronto [04:36] SPEAKER_01: is a huge benefit. [04:38] SPEAKER_01: And then really the only negative is the cost of living. [04:42] SPEAKER_01: It's expensive to live in Toronto or around Toronto. [04:45] SPEAKER_01: And that's the biggest hurdle as an entrepreneur [04:47] SPEAKER_01: is, you know, keeping your cost of living low [04:49] SPEAKER_01: because you might not have a ton of revenue coming out [04:52] SPEAKER_01: at the start. [04:53] SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I would just say very frankly, [04:55] SPEAKER_01: that's the biggest challenge of the cost of living. [04:58] SPEAKER_00: So, still our best idea has come when we least expect them. [05:02] SPEAKER_00: How do you disconnect, you know, how do you recharge? [05:05] SPEAKER_00: How are you getting inspired? [05:07] SPEAKER_01: That's a great question because I mean, [05:10] SPEAKER_01: I'm sure other entrepreneurs have said the same thing. [05:12] SPEAKER_01: Like, it's very easy to get sucked in [05:14] SPEAKER_01: where this is your life 18 hours a day [05:16] SPEAKER_01: and this is all you do. [05:18] SPEAKER_01: It's almost like you have to schedule free time. [05:21] SPEAKER_01: At least that's what I find. [05:23] SPEAKER_01: So I'll pick, you know, one day and one evening [05:25] SPEAKER_01: on the weekend either spend time with friends, [05:28] SPEAKER_01: my girlfriend, family, and just when I'm doing that, [05:31] SPEAKER_01: it's completely outside of work. [05:34] SPEAKER_01: There's no checking emails, no checking phone. [05:36] SPEAKER_01: It's a complete like blackout from that type of thing. [05:40] SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, once that period is done, [05:42] SPEAKER_01: you can jump back into it. [05:43] SPEAKER_01: But I think it's extremely important [05:45] SPEAKER_01: to, you know, go on walks or talk to people, [05:47] SPEAKER_01: go see movies or whatever you like to do [05:49] SPEAKER_01: to recharge your batteries [05:50] SPEAKER_01: and you'll never know where inspiration will kind of come from. [05:54] SPEAKER_00: What kind of vision do you have for your business? [05:57] SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, is it national or international now? [06:00] SPEAKER_00: Is that, is that what you're taking it and just curious? [06:03] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so we're completely national right now. [06:06] SPEAKER_01: We have students in every province in territory [06:09] SPEAKER_01: across Canada. [06:11] SPEAKER_01: We're extremely happy with how we've done that 18 months. [06:14] SPEAKER_01: We're at just under 50,000 students [06:16] SPEAKER_01: signed up and using the platform, [06:18] SPEAKER_01: which we think is great. [06:20] SPEAKER_01: So now the choice for us is, [06:23] SPEAKER_01: do we want to move internationally [06:24] SPEAKER_01: or do we now want to start to offer other products [06:27] SPEAKER_01: or services to students in Canada? [06:29] SPEAKER_01: Based on our feedback with students, [06:31] SPEAKER_01: I think we'll go to expand our platform [06:33] SPEAKER_01: to not only be scholarships, [06:35] SPEAKER_01: but to be other touch points to help students [06:37] SPEAKER_01: from high school to their angle [06:39] SPEAKER_01: of getting their first job at a university. [06:42] SPEAKER_01: There's a couple of different ways. [06:43] SPEAKER_01: The most prominent ones are like a professional guidance [06:45] SPEAKER_01: counseling service, [06:46] SPEAKER_01: potentially helping with like financials, financial planning, [06:50] SPEAKER_01: or helping with fine co-op jobs and something like that. [06:53] SPEAKER_01: So we're right at the inflection point, I guess. [06:56] SPEAKER_00: So what's the greatest challenge you've faced to date? [07:00] SPEAKER_01: Great question. [07:01] SPEAKER_01: The greatest challenge is convincing organizations [07:05] SPEAKER_01: or individuals who have never offered [07:07] SPEAKER_01: for scholarships before, [07:08] SPEAKER_01: the benefits to do so. [07:10] SPEAKER_01: Because, I mean, to be perfectly frank, [07:12] SPEAKER_01: the service we offer them is never going to be a need. [07:14] SPEAKER_01: It's always a nice to have. [07:16] SPEAKER_01: It's not like a company needs to offer a scholarship. [07:19] SPEAKER_01: So the sales cycle is definitely longer there, [07:21] SPEAKER_01: but it's also the education piece [07:23] SPEAKER_01: of like the advantages of offering a scholarship, [07:26] SPEAKER_01: you know, showing off your brand, [07:27] SPEAKER_01: and your corporate values, [07:28] SPEAKER_01: that also things that people necessarily haven't thought of before. [07:31] SPEAKER_01: It's a great way to build out your hiring pipeline [07:33] SPEAKER_01: for young talent. [07:34] SPEAKER_01: Even if you're only going to award the scholarship [07:37] SPEAKER_01: to one person, you can catalog the people [07:39] SPEAKER_01: who are, you know, your finalists [07:40] SPEAKER_01: and keep engaged with them over time [07:42] SPEAKER_01: for co-op positions or new grad hires. [07:45] SPEAKER_01: And then lastly, we found a lot of people have success [07:48] SPEAKER_01: in using scholarships as, you know, [07:50] SPEAKER_01: almost a straight up marketing tool [07:51] SPEAKER_01: where markets, products, or services [07:53] SPEAKER_01: that are targeted students. [07:54] SPEAKER_01: Because for young people now, [07:57] SPEAKER_01: there's so much noise out there for them [08:00] SPEAKER_01: that we have a very like captured, [08:02] SPEAKER_01: focused group of students. [08:04] SPEAKER_01: So if you're looking to engage with them in any way, [08:06] SPEAKER_01: scholarships are definitely a viable option. [08:09] SPEAKER_00: What do you know now that you wish you'd known [08:12] SPEAKER_00: when you're starting your business? [08:15] SPEAKER_01: There's so many things to be honest with you. [08:18] SPEAKER_01: I think they go, okay, what's the most important? [08:20] SPEAKER_01: Yeah. [08:21] SPEAKER_01: The most important is not to get in your own head. [08:26] SPEAKER_01: A lot of times, some of the best ideas we've had, [08:28] SPEAKER_01: we've put off for months, they kind of die [08:30] SPEAKER_01: on the cutting room floor of like, [08:32] SPEAKER_01: you think of reasons of why it's not going to work [08:35] SPEAKER_01: when you should actually just shoot your shot, [08:38] SPEAKER_01: see what happens, get out there, talk to people. [08:40] SPEAKER_01: The worst you're going to hear is no. [08:42] SPEAKER_01: No one's going to laugh at you or call you an idiot. [08:45] SPEAKER_01: So take your shot and see if it works. [08:48] SPEAKER_01: The best way to figure it out if it's a good idea [08:49] SPEAKER_01: is to put it out there and get feedback. [08:51] SPEAKER_00: That's a good piece of advice, [08:53] SPEAKER_00: but what's the best piece of advice [08:55] SPEAKER_00: that you've ever received? [08:57] SPEAKER_01: The best piece of advice I've ever received [08:59] SPEAKER_01: was from a book and I don't want to miss quote it, [09:02] SPEAKER_01: but I think it was from the wealthy barbers like second book. [09:06] SPEAKER_01: And it was the best time to plant oak tree was 80 years ago. [09:11] SPEAKER_01: The second best time is right now. [09:13] SPEAKER_01: So with any advice, it would have been great [09:15] SPEAKER_01: to know it five years ago, but you can't do that. [09:18] SPEAKER_01: So you might as well act on it now, type of thing. [09:20] SPEAKER_00: So from an entrepreneurial level, [09:23] SPEAKER_00: what are the top three things on your bucket list, [09:25] SPEAKER_00: your vision board right now? [09:28] SPEAKER_01: Great question. [09:30] SPEAKER_01: One is for the next three months, [09:33] SPEAKER_01: is the slower part when it comes to the steam sign up. [09:36] SPEAKER_01: It'll be a very aggressive push to get on board more people [09:40] SPEAKER_01: who are going to offer scholarships [09:41] SPEAKER_01: because what we've done successfully is make the scholarship [09:44] SPEAKER_01: we have very available for students, [09:46] SPEAKER_01: but our real overarching goal is to increase [09:49] SPEAKER_01: the amount of scholarships available to Canadian students. [09:52] SPEAKER_01: So definitely that. [09:53] SPEAKER_01: Number two is start to look at scaling the team. [09:56] SPEAKER_01: We feel like we have a nice formula, [09:58] SPEAKER_01: but we can, you know, we're very small right now. [09:59] SPEAKER_01: So scaling the team and all the challenges associated with that. [10:03] SPEAKER_01: And then three is, you know, what's next for us? [10:08] SPEAKER_01: What, what does the next year look like? [10:10] SPEAKER_01: And what are the key development pieces we want to do? [10:14] SPEAKER_01: Or do we look to moving to the US? [10:15] SPEAKER_01: So those are the five or the three big. [10:18] SPEAKER_00: Okay. Good. [10:19] SPEAKER_00: Okay. We're going to go through some kind of rapid fire, [10:22] SPEAKER_00: fast answer questions, whatever you want. [10:25] SPEAKER_00: So, you know, just shoot it out. [10:27] SPEAKER_00: Look at the answer. [10:28] SPEAKER_00: So if you weren't doing what you do for work now, [10:31] SPEAKER_00: what would you be doing instead? [10:34] SPEAKER_01: Either something with helping people with personal finances [10:37] SPEAKER_01: or just working on a small dynamic team, [10:40] SPEAKER_01: working on a problem and passionate about. [10:43] SPEAKER_00: What book are you currently reading? [10:45] SPEAKER_00: And what books would you recommend? [10:48] SPEAKER_01: I just picked up a new book. [10:49] SPEAKER_01: I know it's very, it's like the hit book right now. [10:52] SPEAKER_01: It's the subtle art of not giving a fuck. [10:54] SPEAKER_01: So I haven't cracked that. [10:55] SPEAKER_01: So I can't say anything about that yet. [10:57] SPEAKER_01: But when I recommend the most is a Tim Ferriss, [11:00] SPEAKER_01: tools of Titans, [11:00] SPEAKER_01: there's essentially cliff notes of a bunch of successful people. [11:03] Speaker UNKNOWN: And it's great. [11:06] SPEAKER_00: If you had to pick one word to describe yourself, [11:09] SPEAKER_00: what would it be and why? [11:12] SPEAKER_01: Passionate, I think. [11:14] SPEAKER_01: Just everything I do, I tend to be allowed talk [11:16] SPEAKER_01: or I tend to like really like engaging with people. [11:19] SPEAKER_01: So I would say passionate for that. [11:22] SPEAKER_00: What's keeping you up at night? [11:25] SPEAKER_01: Keeping us up at night is we know we're onto something, [11:28] SPEAKER_01: but we also know there are other people trying to solve the same problem. [11:32] SPEAKER_01: So the people you don't know about that are looking to kind of eat [11:37] SPEAKER_01: your lunch type of thing. [11:39] SPEAKER_00: What's your favorite place in the world today? [11:43] SPEAKER_00: Or if you're not sure where you think it would be? [11:46] SPEAKER_01: Favorite place to take a date? [11:49] SPEAKER_00: No, favorite place in the world to date. [11:52] SPEAKER_00: Not to rise into as it not end as to well, maybe it's today. [11:57] SPEAKER_00: I don't know. [12:03] SPEAKER_00: Let's tell you wrong with that. [12:06] SPEAKER_01: I would say right now, [12:08] SPEAKER_01: my top three would be Copenhagen, [12:10] SPEAKER_01: Munich and Vancouver. [12:12] SPEAKER_01: All for different reasons, but love those cities and just feel really alive [12:17] SPEAKER_01: when I'm there. [12:18] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm with you on Copenhagen. [12:20] SPEAKER_00: It's a great place. [12:22] SPEAKER_00: What are the three non-negotiables that have to happen in your morning or evening routine? [12:28] SPEAKER_01: In my evening, shut down the computer an hour before I go to bed. [12:31] SPEAKER_01: I just find that my sleep is a deeper, more restful sleep. [12:35] SPEAKER_01: In the morning, I have to take at least a 15 minute shower. [12:39] SPEAKER_01: I like a long shower, gives me time to think. [12:43] SPEAKER_01: And then also in the morning, first thing I do, I mean, this might not be, [12:48] SPEAKER_01: is I check my calendar for the day, check emails I got overnight and just plan out my day [12:52] SPEAKER_01: in very rough specs, only takes 15 minutes. [12:55] SPEAKER_01: And then I move on to, you know, breakfast and things like that. [12:58] SPEAKER_01: But those are the three things that I have to do. [13:01] SPEAKER_00: Do you think entrepreneurs are weird or I mean, it's just something special about them, [13:07] SPEAKER_00: or is it just anyone can be an entrepreneur? [13:11] SPEAKER_01: I think like, and yes, I definitely think they're weird, but like weird in a good way. [13:15] SPEAKER_01: And I think the biggest thing is risk tolerance. [13:19] SPEAKER_01: It's not saying that we're riskier people. [13:22] SPEAKER_01: It's just that we know what the risks are. [13:24] SPEAKER_01: We're willing to be risk adverse in the face of what those risks are. [13:28] SPEAKER_01: I think given the right circumstances, anyone could really be an entrepreneur, [13:32] SPEAKER_01: but there is a huge difference between having an idea and executing on that. [13:37] Speaker UNKNOWN: That idea. [13:38] SPEAKER_01: And I think that's where I don't want to say special, but like that's where the weirdness is. [13:42] SPEAKER_01: You have to have an insane amount of confidence in yourself or almost like, [13:47] SPEAKER_01: blind faith in like your own abilities and knowing what you want to execute on and being able to do that. [13:54] SPEAKER_00: So here's the tropical island. [13:56] SPEAKER_00: You might have heard it on a couple of the other podcasts. [13:58] SPEAKER_00: There's a small, beautiful tropical island in the middle of the ocean with one fond booth and no internet. [14:06] SPEAKER_00: We drop you off there with no technology at all. [14:09] SPEAKER_00: At any time you can use the phone because I'm the island to call us in the boat and come and pick you up. [14:15] SPEAKER_00: How long would you last before making that phone call? [14:18] SPEAKER_00: And what would you do until you did that? [14:21] SPEAKER_01: I love this question. [14:23] SPEAKER_01: I have heard it on the previous. [14:25] SPEAKER_00: Everyone answers it differently. [14:27] SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of a fun. [14:28] SPEAKER_00: Yeah. [14:28] SPEAKER_01: There's so many ways to take it and like with the feeling of like what your headspace is, it probably is different. [14:33] SPEAKER_01: I'm going to try not to give too much of a cop out answer. [14:37] SPEAKER_01: If I had, if I knew this was coming up and scheduled it, I would say I could do a full week. [14:41] SPEAKER_01: And then I would like spend it relaxing, just, you know, enjoying myself. [14:46] SPEAKER_01: If it was you kidnapped me on my way to work and then drop me there, I would last four to eight hours total. [14:52] SPEAKER_01: Because the entire time I'd be panicking about like, what am I missing out on type of thing? [14:57] SPEAKER_01: But yeah, if I was able to spend a week there, I think I would really try to develop some survival skills. [15:02] SPEAKER_01: Like hunt fish, like just get more in tune with nature. [15:06] SPEAKER_01: And the more primitive side of the human experience, I guess. [15:12] SPEAKER_00: That's been really good. [15:14] SPEAKER_00: Some good, some good observations. [15:16] SPEAKER_00: How can our listeners get hold of you? [15:18] SPEAKER_00: And you want to add anything more? [15:20] SPEAKER_00: Is there any jam that we've missed in here before you leave us today? [15:26] SPEAKER_01: The only thing you only will say is even though as an entrepreneur, you're often doing a lot of things on your own. [15:31] SPEAKER_01: You're never truly alone. [15:32] SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of organizations, a lot of like incubators that you can apply to in the GTA or across Canada, [15:39] SPEAKER_01: specifically affiliated with the various universities that often help you get initial grant money, seed funding, things like that. [15:45] SPEAKER_01: So don't feel like you're on an island by yourself. [15:48] SPEAKER_01: There are always people willing to help and feel free to reach out. [15:52] SPEAKER_01: Your listeners can get a hold of me at ritt.garen at scholar tree.ca is my email or on LinkedIn. [16:00] SPEAKER_01: Just search me. It's very easy to find. [16:03] SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I'm accessible for any types of conversations that they're interested in starting scholarship. [16:07] SPEAKER_01: Great. If they just want to talk about things, also cool. [16:10] SPEAKER_00: Hey, but thanks for coming on to the show and you know, talking to our listeners at Canada's podcast. [16:17] SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank you so much for having me. [16:18] SPEAKER_01: This has been a real treat. [16:20] SPEAKER_00: Thanks everyone for taking the time today to listen to Toronto's podcast on the Canada's podcast network. [16:25] SPEAKER_00: I hope you enjoyed the podcast today. [16:29] SPEAKER_00: Make sure you sign up for a news address or write a review for us on iTunes. [16:33] SPEAKER_00: You can connect with us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn or at canvassbarkas.com [16:39] SPEAKER_00: where you can listen, discover and engage. [16:42] SPEAKER_00: You can also check out what other entrepreneurs are doing across the country. [16:46] SPEAKER_00: I'll see you next time.
