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[01:17] SPEAKER_01: Hello, this is Robert Smigel coming today with a Vancouver Entrepreneur.ca where we talk to the entrepreneurs who are making it happen here in British Columbia.
[01:24] SPEAKER_01: Diane Curry Sam is an award-winning communication strategist and sales and marketing expert.
[01:31] SPEAKER_01: She is a master storyteller who has spoken on stages internationally and worked with hundreds of clients to initiate massive growth in their businesses.
[01:41] SPEAKER_01: She has helped clients secure millions of dollars in funding and sales contracts and initiate change through creating story-based speeches, webinars and investment pitches.
[01:53] SPEAKER_01: Diane is the founder and CEO of Be A Better Story Business Services.
[01:59] SPEAKER_01: Well Diane, welcome to the show. Thanks for taking the time today to be here for all our listeners.
[02:05] SPEAKER_00: Thank you Robert, just really thrilled to be here.
[02:08] SPEAKER_01: Fantastic, okay. I want you to tell us a little bit more about yourself where you're from and give us the details on your current business.
[02:15] SPEAKER_00: Well, I love that this is a BC show because I can tell everyone I'm born and raised in CalMoups.
[02:21] SPEAKER_00: Right now I live in Coquitlam. I moved to Vancouver area when I was about 18. So I'm BC Girl. Love it here.
[02:30] SPEAKER_00: My business is, as you mentioned, is called Be A Better Story and it's about how people to tell their stories, particularly through speeches, presentations, investment pitches.
[02:42] SPEAKER_00: Anything that they need to do to, and I really believe this, is that you need to affect change.
[02:48] SPEAKER_00: You want to move people, you want to get them to move them into action, do something that you really have to base it very strongly in the story.
[02:55] SPEAKER_00: And that is why I moved people to action and that's what I helped to create.
[03:00] SPEAKER_01: Okay, good. Now did you need financing to start your company and how do you currently make money in your business now?
[03:06] SPEAKER_00: Well, I had some initial financing, not a lot. I had some just to kind of get going hang my shingle up.
[03:15] SPEAKER_00: I currently make money as a speech writing. So people hire me to write their speeches and presentations and help them do that one on one coaching and development.
[03:26] SPEAKER_00: I also teach courses and how to write a speech. It's actually called how to write a speech that will change you, change the world and attract clients like honey.
[03:33] SPEAKER_00: So it's how to do online courses and I do live workshops on a regular basis called your golden story.
[03:42] SPEAKER_00: And that's about how to tell your story from stage.
[03:46] SPEAKER_01: Okay, so most of your clients are like CEO, senior level managers.
[03:50] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I call them either speakers or emerging leaders. So they're people who, yeah, in business usually and there's a reason they want to get out and speak.
[03:59] SPEAKER_00: They want to get their message out. They want to sell more products. They want to get investment. They want to get the change the industry in some way and get people to notice them.
[04:07] SPEAKER_00: And I personally believe that you've got to get out and talk right now.
[04:14] SPEAKER_01: Now, as far as the speech writing, do you also coach on the actual delivery, how they go on stage, how they break the ice, things like that and deliver a speech?
[04:24] SPEAKER_00: The actual delivery part of it. Well, yes, yes, and no, I mean, some people just, like I always, every time I write a speech with someone, regardless, there is some delivery coaching going on because as I tell people, it's an auditory medium, right?
[04:38] SPEAKER_00: People are going to hear you. So I can't just go away and write a speech on your behalf and we kind of have to write it together in a way, right? Like I have to hear you saying it here, you delivering it, even if it's just on a video conference, I'm not live with you.
[04:55] SPEAKER_00: I need to hear you actually reading it out and delivering it to me. It's kind of funny because sometimes I'll write something and in my mind, maybe they're going to sound really happy and engaging.
[05:05] SPEAKER_00: And then when they rehearse it with me, I'll be like, well, you sound angry or you sound upset, like they don't sound the way I hadn't envisioned it. So it really has to be rehearse. So everybody I do as part of my package, when I do speech writing for them, I do rehearse it with them. That's part of the deal, right?
[05:22] SPEAKER_00: But then there are other people, especially at my live workshops, that's where I really go into, okay, now I want to see you in front of a group of people and I coach them, yes, even how their body moves, how their voice sounds, how the story is actually flowing out of their mouth when they're talking. So there's components of both.
[05:43] SPEAKER_01: Okay, what is the long term vision and what will your company look like in the future? Do you see the company expanding into other areas and wherever beyond Vancouver, BC or even Canada?
[05:55] SPEAKER_00: Well, in terms of my customer base, it really is already expanding outside of Vancouver. Like I have clients all over the world, I'm dealing with the woman in Romania right now and helping her write her speech in the presentation.
[06:08] SPEAKER_00: So really with the internet and with video conferencing, it's my client base is already global. The long term vision for me is to I would like my live workshops to get bigger.
[06:20] SPEAKER_00: I would like to take them all over the world. I think that I've got a very unique way I call it story centering to getting really centering people in their story and showing them how to get it out in really powerful ways.
[06:31] SPEAKER_00: I'd love to see that workshop, maybe have a couple other people teaching it and kind of expand that all over the world and teach more of my courses.
[06:41] SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, we've learned a little bit about you and your business. We're going to talk a little bit about Vancouver and BC.
[06:48] SPEAKER_01: What are the biggest benefits for you and being an entrepreneur here in Vancouver, BC? I want you to give us some of the good points about starting a company here, but I also want you to give us some tough, tough things or challenges for our listeners so they can keep it up for them.
[07:00] SPEAKER_00: Well, I love the vibrancy of the city. I have a real love for it. I mean, I was, I mean, I'm from Camelot. So BC girl, my parents were born and raised here too. I love the so many interesting, intelligent, well-educated people in this in the city who I really enjoy connecting with. There's lots of opportunities.
[07:22] SPEAKER_00: New things are happening. I love the high tech industry here. I actually worked as a technical writer for years for the software gaming companies. So I connected into that. I think there's a real youthful technology energy of kind of a happening place.
[07:38] SPEAKER_00: And I love tapping into that. I actually got my start in sort of I was the web girl, an internet person back in the 90s, right, when it was just all new. And so I love that vibe of Vancouver. I do find the, you know, the affordability is a big issue.
[07:55] SPEAKER_00: I, you know, I myself live out in Brooklyn. So I do a lot of community and every time I've, every time I mean, I have a home office, I've got an office out here. But there's a lot of things I need to go to and I have to drive into Vancouver back and forth. And I'm not a big fan of the traffic and certainly the affordability in the city is a bit much sometimes.
[08:15] SPEAKER_01: So I had to assume which two things I could really think of to criticize about it. Yeah, that's a common one because living real estate, yet. Yeah, we're getting very high now. Yeah, okay, good. So we do some of our best work outside the office. Is there a place in the lower mainland close to where you live or work?
[08:32] SPEAKER_01: We like to go recharge or get inspired. Just think about your business. And just change with the season, considering all the rain we get here.
[08:40] SPEAKER_00: I'm a forest girl. I love the forest. And I live at the base of Burke Mountain in Coquillum, which is the northeast side of Coquillum. And really I just walk up the hill and I'm in the forest. And I love it. And there's tons of trails around here. And I could just, I take my dog. I just go wandering, right?
[09:01] SPEAKER_00: I love that feeling. And it's it's it's surprising even though you know, it's a populated area. It doesn't take long walking on those trails before you get that feeling of kind of just being alone in the wilderness. And you're not actually all that far.
[09:15] SPEAKER_00: But it has that feeling of trees are big. It's quiet. You can walk by the river. You can walk.
[09:21] SPEAKER_00: So that recharges me. There's something about the forest and the trees. I think I'll always be like, you know, some people love the sea. And, you know, I like all that too. But I'm not for us. Just the feeling of being surrounded by it and protected by it to be a really rejuvenating feeling.
[09:38] SPEAKER_01: Yes. That's exactly the lower mainland and BC is really known for. So we have a lot of international listeners. So I want you to speak to them in this next question. If you were to start all over again and you just moved here to Vancouver, BC, but this time you don't know anyone knowing what you know now, what would you do? And how would you go about starting all over again? As an entrepreneur?
[10:03] SPEAKER_00: Well, I would I man, there are so many very interesting networking groups that go in on Vancouver. So many interesting ways of connecting with people. And I would just tell someone to get get connected. Get in there. Go to some of these.
[10:19] SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of great events at the science world, BC technology industry association. If that's what you're kind of into. They have some very interesting speakers that they bring in. It's a happening town. There's a lot of interesting things happen. The TEDx that was going on in TEDx Downing Park, the major conventions that happened here.
[10:41] SPEAKER_00: Just go go to events, go see who's come into town and get connected in with that that vibrancy that I was talking about earlier.
[10:51] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you just have to kind of make the initiative to go out there and do it. Yeah, yeah. There's really fascinating things happening here and interesting people going on and conferences out at UBC and Simon Fraser University and that the stuff going on is surrey at their technical center that they're creating.
[11:11] SPEAKER_00: Like fast like there's a lot happening just whatever your particular interest is in. Just get out there and connect it. Just connect yourself in and you'll be amazed at the kind of things that are happening here.
[11:23] SPEAKER_01: Okay, we're going to talk about your routine a little bit here. What does the first hour look like for you when you get up in the morning. Do you have a specific routine or ritual that helps you get motivated start your day?
[11:34] SPEAKER_00: Well, I get a six and I get into my workout gear and I drive down to the my local gym and I have a personal training group that I've part of and I work out.
[11:47] SPEAKER_00: Four days a week. Then I come home. I get ready. I get the kids to school and then I sit down and work generally and I have a lot of like my work is often through video conference.
[12:00] SPEAKER_00: So I'm writing working with people meeting with people. I have typically my client sessions are now and half each.
[12:08] SPEAKER_00: And then I'm not working constantly with clients all the time. A lot of times I'm doing this type of work talking to people and marketing, writing, connecting that kind of stuff.
[12:20] SPEAKER_00: I take regular breaks in the day. I go and stretch and walk around get a little fresh air and come back and get right back at it. So and then I finish around four or five o'clock sometimes earlier depending what my schedule is.
[12:37] SPEAKER_01: And that's it. So even working from home, you still maintain that schedule, not working too late.
[12:44] SPEAKER_00: Oh, I don't really. Yeah, I'm very well, I've got to school age kids and I just I can't I can't be working 24 hours a day. It's just not my thing.
[12:53] SPEAKER_01: Do you think entrepreneurs have to be weird or unique in a positive way or wired differently?
[13:01] SPEAKER_00: You know what I don't really think they're wired differently. I think sometimes they are not really for entrepreneurs happen for all sorts of different reasons.
[13:12] SPEAKER_00: So I think there's this kind of feeling out there that this is this is unique thing that happens entrepreneurship. But I don't really think so. I've met entrepreneurs who are very.
[13:21] SPEAKER_00: So who are not particular risk takers, but saw us certain opportunity and felt they had to do something and did it. I know entrepreneurs are a bit more risk takers and have been are more excited about starting things.
[13:36] SPEAKER_00: So there's all kinds of different ways of starting a business and reasons for starting a business. So I don't have any. I think anyone can really be an entrepreneur if that's what they want.
[13:48] SPEAKER_00: Different ways. I do think there has to be a certain open mindedness about it that it requires an ability to make quick decisions and real and and take a little bit of a risk and be open to changing if you have to and being open to new ideas and caught and being able to.
[14:14] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, talk to so many people and get your get your ideas out in the world and yeah, it does require certain openness. I don't think you can be.
[14:23] SPEAKER_01: You can be too rigid if you're going to be an entrepreneur. Yeah. Okay, what books are you reading now and why are you in if you're listening to podcasts. Can you recommend and recommend any books for listeners who are also aspiring entrepreneurs.
[14:37] SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm reading one right now called the seventh shift and I can't remember the author but I'm sure if people Google it, they'll find it. It's about the trends going on in the world and the whole like social trends, banking trends, economic trends.
[14:53] SPEAKER_00: And so this guy's talking about a shift that's happening and how decisions are being made differently in all sorts of things, politics, economy, schooling, education and in its fascinating and I'm very much a bit of futurist for a lot of my adult life fascinated by the idea of what is the future going to bring.
[15:14] SPEAKER_00: What are the trends that are going to be happening. So how gosh I'm going on about this book. It's the one nonfiction I'm reading right now and I'm also I read a lot of fiction and sci fi and all that kind of stuff. But right now that's the one I'm really keen on recommending to people.
[15:35] SPEAKER_01: Okay, what online or offline tools do you use on a daily basis.
[15:41] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'm lots I use zoom. I know we're on Skype, but I use zoom as I think it's a little bit better for video conferencing. I'm video conference. That's how I do my meetings anymore. If I'm not quite funny, if someone wants to call me on the phone, I'm like, what?
[15:54] SPEAKER_00: Want to call me? I can see. So you think zoom is better than Skype. I do. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I just think it's a little bit more better video quality, a little bit more reliable.
[16:04] SPEAKER_00: So I use that. I use Westie and I hope to host all my videos. I use active campaign for my marketing, which is now, which is also hooked up to click funnels and click funnels is for my various sales pages and
[16:19] SPEAKER_00: and information type pages. Use WordPress for my for my website.
[16:28] SPEAKER_00: Kind of standard stuff, but it's good. It works for me. What else do I use on a regular basis PayPal? I do my pay. I do my credit card transactions to PayPal and some of my order forms and things.
[16:42] SPEAKER_00: And paper and pen. Yeah. Yeah. I do have a notebook. I have a notebook and I write stuff down for sure. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
[16:52] SPEAKER_01: As you know, you're from BC. So you know, the place very well. And it's internationally known as a place to live in outdoor lifestyle. How do you balance work and how do you relax and not think about work and what are your favorite activities to do here in BC? Do you ski? Do you bike, high hat golf? Hike or simply go for a drive?
[17:12] SPEAKER_00: I hike a lot and I go swimming a lot in the summer. I take the boys to the I've got two boys and we go to the beaches and we go to the parks and the pools and the so we do a lot of that and a lot of hiking.
[17:29] SPEAKER_00: I used to ski and then I hurt my knee a while back so I don't do that so much anymore. A lot of biking. There's so many nice bike trails. So I'll go out biking and just walk in and like I said, kind of exploring the forest.
[17:44] SPEAKER_01: If you weren't doing what you do now, what would you like to do for a profession?
[17:52] SPEAKER_00: Well, right now I would love to. Okay. So this is going to sound sort of similar what I'm doing, but I do this now for living because I love it like speech writing, right?
[18:02] SPEAKER_00: But I love the idea of more writing biographies of people like jump into their stories and really following someone around who I thought was super fascinating and writing and creating a whole maybe whole documentary about the more.
[18:19] SPEAKER_00: I just maybe pushing it into a whole new level, right? Like that it's not just a I'm not just creating a one hour presentation for someone or a one hour speech. I'm actually diving in and doing a whole documentary about that, right?
[18:35] SPEAKER_01: That would be cool to be a documentary filmmaker. Yeah, or some of these people they write books for people like these are biographies, right? They're a story like the guy that did Steve Jobs book and stuff like that.
[18:46] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like that kind of stuff like really really going in depth with someone because right now I'm kind of in depth, but then they go off and they do their you know, they all think so much and they have their speech and they go off and they do it and I don't, you know, I don't go into depth with them more than that.
[19:02] SPEAKER_00: So I think that kind of idea of taking a like what I like about the documentary filmmaker with is telling the you're telling stories and it's making a big impact on the world.
[19:12] SPEAKER_00: You know, like there's that watching that TV show about the what's her name Leah Remini is doing about Scientology on CNN.
[19:22] SPEAKER_00: And you know, she's really diving deep into people and their experiences and what they've done and what and you can see the families have changed because of what she's bringing out in the world.
[19:33] SPEAKER_00: And I just thought wow, that's that's taking something that she was really interested in about and bringing it to light like what's really going on here that investigative journalism style of storytelling love that.
[19:47] SPEAKER_01: What kind of a job would you not like to do couldn't do it?
[19:52] SPEAKER_00: Well, anything that's redundant and sort of repetitive anything that requires a lot of.
[20:01] SPEAKER_00: And now like over analysis, I think I would get I think my I can do it but my brain get would get frustrated right to like picky little details and things because I'm kind of a big I'm a word person.
[20:13] SPEAKER_00: I'm a big picture thinker I like to be creative and I like every day to be a little bit different and and so anything that would be a bit too repetitive or that I was just staring at one thing for too long.
[20:26] SPEAKER_01: I think I would I would go nuts in business. What is your favorite word quote or sentence that you like to use.
[20:36] SPEAKER_00: Well, it always seems impossible until it's done.
[20:40] SPEAKER_00: It's a quote that I have upon my my wall right is that it when we're for people who are really.
[20:47] SPEAKER_00: I don't know we've got a big task in front of us like let's say I like my wife I don't know my workshops that I want to fill my workshops I want to get 100 people in the room and I want to have this whole big thing and it seems to me it's.
[20:59] SPEAKER_00: At what I first start out I was think oh my god can I do this and then when it's done I'm like.
[21:05] SPEAKER_00: I don't know it just motivates me like it always seems that way you think it's going to be possible and then you do it you're like oh okay I can I can do this so I like that one the other quote that I have up in my office is.
[21:16] SPEAKER_00: I'm from Tolkien and he said that who wrote Lord the rings and it's from that poem not all who wander are lost and I've really thought about that I like it.
[21:27] SPEAKER_00: I'm a bit of a wander right I've done a lot of things in my career and had different different types of things that I did in my business I kind of wandered around a little bit and I used to judge myself and think wow you know why can't I just stick to one thing and you know I was wanted to I was sort of admired people who.
[21:45] SPEAKER_00: That's what they were really good at they were you know they were they played the piano and they were a piano player their whole life right but I've done so many different things I think well you know I wish I could have stuck to something.
[21:56] SPEAKER_00: And then I look at that and I think well I wasn't lost even that I was trying new things and testing new things out and responding to the industry and responding to changes and enjoying that journey that I was on so I don't know I kind of like that philosophy is it we're sort of on a journey like just let the journey happen.
[22:15] SPEAKER_01: Yeah that's interesting you say that because actually I've never heard that quote before but now that you say it like that I can relate to it because I personally have a bad sense of direction sometimes when I travel.
[22:24] SPEAKER_01: Yeah I mean one time I was in East France and I came out of a bar or something like that and I should have taken a left but I would go back to my place I took a right and I went on this amazing journey I mean it was just yeah and I've done that a few times traveling I've literally gotten lost but I it's taken me on and I've seen just amazing things that if I would
[22:42] SPEAKER_00: stuck to the path that I you know follow the crumbs back to your place right I would start on a lot so it can be to your benefit sometimes just a wonder without being lost right for sure well I wanted to because I teach a speech writing course and in my course I use Steve Jobs Stanford University commencement speech as an example so for those of you listening you don't do it now listen to listening to us but afterwards you can google that and it's he talks about different things in his life that he's doing.
[23:12] SPEAKER_00: He did and when he was doing it they seemed really disjointed and he didn't know why he was doing it and he kind of the same kind of thing like he went and took a when he was a student in college he took a typography class well that was back before computers back before you know fonts were anything special I wouldn't knew anything about them but of course what was the apple computer known for all the beautiful calligraphy and fonts that they came up with was we were at the time totally life changing for people right especially the whole church.
[23:42] SPEAKER_00: Change graphic design forever basically and but at the time he was taking it as a young college student he was sort of thinking why the hell am I taking that so this is a doubt like this is such old technology you know calligraphy it didn't make any sense but over time you know all things he the things he did he kind of rolled this thread through it it made sense right follow the dots follow the dots exactly yeah okay what is your least favorite word or sentence you do not like to hear.
[24:09] SPEAKER_00: I don't like to hear oh you're too much.
[24:15] SPEAKER_00: A little personal there but I've got that in my whole life like I've just been I'm funny I'm loud I'm I'm not loud obnoxious loud but just I have these big ideas I've got these all we can do this right like I can see it I get excited about it and I get people are like oh you're too much oh that'll never have like that kind of oh
[24:38] SPEAKER_01: those kind of things like I get and then I kind of well you know yeah if you had to pick one or two words to describe yourself what would it be and why.
[24:50] SPEAKER_00: I think it would be open-minded because I very much I come a storyteller and I work with people and telling their stories so I have to have a very open vision of them when I first meet them.
[25:07] SPEAKER_00: When I start to work with them to really understand who they really are and I have to have that kind of openness to it because if I quickly if I make judgments too soon or I don't ask enough to questions enough deep questions if I sort of decide I think I know what they're about before they've revealed it to me I wouldn't be very good at my job so I have to have that openness to discovering who that person is what their story is and what they really want to say out in the world.
[25:35] SPEAKER_00: So I've cultivated that like it's not something that I that I think people are necessarily born with or or I've had cultivated that that ability to be open to people and to really fully understand that at a very deep level so I have to say that and I also have a certain joyfulness inside me that I think is somewhat rare actually.
[26:05] SPEAKER_00: I just enjoy life I enjoy understand people and and the beauty of nature and just I enjoy just being here on this earth.
[26:17] SPEAKER_01: Would you say you're curious?
[26:20] SPEAKER_00: Oh super curious yeah yeah and I think that's part of why I'm good at what I do I'm just so fascinated by people.
[26:28] SPEAKER_00: Even the most kind of somebody you look like oh well that's just your everyday guy like what's so special about this person or this woman or whatever right and you dismiss them or you don't but man I know people I know people from all walks of life and they're they all have very interesting stories to tell.
[26:47] SPEAKER_00: And not just the people the whole world is fascinating to me I mean look at that's why we recommended that book the seventh shift because he was talking about all the all the interesting things that are all converging on right now like whoa mind blowing.
[27:01] SPEAKER_01: What keeps you up at night if anything?
[27:06] SPEAKER_00: Not a lot keeps me up at night I don't I try not to worry about things.
[27:13] SPEAKER_00: I do worry to be honest I'm worried about the what's I don't know I'm worried about the US and all the weird stuff that's going on did that right that I mean that's a major country and there's some lot of political upheaval and weirdness going on so I kind of worry about how that might affect the economy here in Canada and everything I worry about that a little bit I think that the financial system is a little unstable right now so I kind of wonder that this is my future thinking right like I think there's.
[27:42] SPEAKER_00: Signs of economic kind of disarray happening right now so I can send concerned about that but do I stay up at night not worried about it not really I don't.
[27:53] SPEAKER_01: Okay I want you to give us the top three things on your inspired lifeless this could be a bucket list of some sort whether you want to do TEDx talks whether you want to travel more right books anything like that.
[28:06] SPEAKER_00: Yeah I would love to do a TEDx talk so hint into anyone's listen to this as any connections for that I'd love to do that and I have written a book I would like to write another one that's a like it's a bit deeper my my first one was real how to book it was your business book it was kind of how to write it it was how to write a speech that will change you change the world and it's it's been well received it's a great book it really I think it's been very useful for people who buy it but I would like to go deeper I've got this idea right now.
[28:36] SPEAKER_00: I'm starting to book about the tentative title is called the authority of those who have suffered and it's about really kind of a deep dive into your story what people have suffered with what you've gone through and how to bring that out in a way that that has authority and power and being able to sort of how to stand in your power as you tell your story.
[29:02] SPEAKER_00: So really just explore that on a deeper level and how that could lead to social change right because I really you can talk all you want about theories and economics and data analysis and but until you've actually spoken to someone who's lived through something then you don't you don't fully know what what you're talking about so I really feel that that getting how to kind of really dive into that I'd love to write a book about that.
[29:31] SPEAKER_00: What else do I say? Yeah, Ted X talk and travel. Yeah, there's lots of places in the world I'd like to see. I've never been to Asia I'd like to see China my husband's Chinese Canadian I'd love to kind of go there with with him and see parts of China and Japan kind of explore Asia a little bit and Eastern Europe I've never been there I'd like to see Eastern Europe and yeah all sorts of yeah I've been there.
[29:59] SPEAKER_00: I'd like to travel more sure. Do you have any advice that you may have received that you can pass on to entrepreneurs throughout BC? Well, I think advice for entrepreneurs to me it's yeah it's don't sweat the small stuff and it's all small stuff.
[30:21] SPEAKER_00: It's a book out there isn't it written like that I think yeah I think so but my dad actually told me that before that book even came out so it's like you know there's so much anxiety out there in the world right and there's so much like people put their entire egos on the line they put so much into it and I'm not saying don't care of course you're going to care but you're going to have to there's going to be mistakes and things are going to go wrong right like it's you've got to move forward.
[30:51] SPEAKER_01: You can't let your mistakes or or troubles kind of hold you back right. Yeah it is true. Okay Diane we are going to have some fun you ready to have some fun? Sure. Good okay. Well there's a small tropical island just off of Fiji that only has one phone booth there there is no internet this place does exist by the way we're going to drop you off there you won't have a computer or smartphone or tablet you can use the phone booth located there anytime to call the boat will come pick you up how long would you do that?
[31:21] SPEAKER_00: You last before you made that call what would you do while you were there? So is there people on this island? It's up to you to find out we're putting you on the island. Yeah I think I would I would probably last about a week or so I would just wander around meet people and hang out and I'm quite I mean I'm quite charming and likable I probably chat with people meet them at wherever whatever facilities are worth at island and I would think I would be fine.
[31:52] SPEAKER_00: But I would get tired of it after a week or so and I'd want to come back so. So you treated as a vacation? Yeah I treat as vacation and I try to find my you know find my tribe right who can I hang out with on the island who who would be fun to to hang out with for a week. Great okay. Okay Diane how can our listeners get whole of you and is there anything you'd like to add before you leave us today? Well my company is called be a better story.com so your best bet is to just go to be a better story.
[32:21] SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be a better story.com. There's a link there to download my book which I would recommend to people it's and you can also go directly to be a better story.com slash ebook of how to write a speech if you're interested in that at all and there's ways to contact me at that website and yeah I would love to work with people who are who have a passion for an idea that they just need to get out in the world and want to go talk about it.
[32:48] SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure you'll be able to write an amazing speech for them. Oh yeah that's what I love right? Yes for sure. Great true passion for it. Okay well thank you thank you for coming on the show I've learned a lot about you and I'm sure our listeners have as well.
[33:02] SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much Robert. Great we'll see you next time. Thank you.
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