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[01:12] SPEAKER_00: Hello, this is Robert Smigel coming to you today with a thank you to www.vancouverontaprenure.ca where we talk to the entrepreneurs we're making it happen here in British Columbia.
[01:20] SPEAKER_00: Bob Wang is the founder and CEO of LegacyAdvantage. He holds a CPA, CA and had cut his teeth at one of the big four accounting firms.
[01:31] SPEAKER_00: Bob is passionate about entrepreneurship. Currently, he is on a mission to revolutionize the bookkeeping industry.
[01:38] SPEAKER_00: He is married to Anne and has a super energetic daughter, Elizabeth, who is 16 months old.
[01:45] SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the show. Thanks for taking the time today to be here for all our listeners.
[01:50] SPEAKER_00: Thanks Robert, glad to be here.
[01:52] SPEAKER_00: Okay, I want you to tell us a little bit more about yourself, where you're from and give us the details on your current business.
[02:00] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure. I go all the way back. I was born in China but I was actually raised in the Czech Republic.
[02:07] SPEAKER_01: I left China when I was four years old. I was living in Czech Republic from age four to age 11 and then came to Canada.
[02:16] SPEAKER_01: That was a really important part of my story and as it relates to now, because my dad was an entrepreneur and he actually got an opportunity to go to Czech Republic to start a business.
[02:27] SPEAKER_01: Growing up, I saw him sacrifice and leave early and come back late and really build an amazing business that allowed us to come to Canada.
[02:39] SPEAKER_01: That was kind of a bit of my past and then in terms of my business, I worked at a big four accounting firm like you said.
[02:48] SPEAKER_01: Through the whole process, I realized that people have a really hard time finding good quality bookkeepers.
[02:54] SPEAKER_01: As an accountant doing your end, I would get really, really messy books which made everyone frustrated.
[02:59] SPEAKER_01: I was frustrated, my partner was frustrated and business owner had to pay extra just to get their books fixed up.
[03:06] SPEAKER_01: I was really unfair for them because they already paid that bookkeeper. Why did they need to pay us again to fix those books?
[03:12] SPEAKER_01: I thought, hey, that's a huge opportunity. It's risky for sure, but seeing that my dad took so much risk, he got a huge reward as well.
[03:22] SPEAKER_01: That just inspired me to just go and try. That's kind of the opportunity number one.
[03:30] SPEAKER_01: The second opportunity that I saw is that there's no brand in the bookkeeping space.
[03:35] SPEAKER_01: When you're looking for a bookkeeper, it's still very much worth a amount of referral things.
[03:40] SPEAKER_01: I was asked, hey, Robert, I have a small business. What do you do for bookkeeping? They take it and your clients.
[03:47] SPEAKER_01: There's no really brand in the bookkeeping space. I wanted to create a brand that people can write and own the word bookkeeping for small business owners all over Canada and eventually down to the US.
[03:57] SPEAKER_01: Right now, I started about two years ago. We have about 17 staff, two locations, and recently just surpassed our million dollar mark.
[04:06] SPEAKER_01: It's been a really awesome journey. I love to share that journey with you and your listeners.
[04:12] SPEAKER_00: Did you need financing to start your company and how are you currently making money in your business now?
[04:18] SPEAKER_01: That's a good question. When I first started, that's summer. My grandparents, Grandma, passed away.
[04:30] SPEAKER_01: She left me an inheritance. They saved their entire lives to save $70,000 Canadian worth in Chinese money.
[04:42] SPEAKER_01: I can either use that to buy a car or whatever, or I can invest in this business.
[04:50] SPEAKER_01: That was my initial investment. My grandparents saved all their lives to give me a leg up and that's how I used it.
[04:57] SPEAKER_01: I put all the money into the business, hired someone from day one. That's quite unusual because a lot of accounts and bookkeepers, when they start off, don't hire anybody.
[05:06] SPEAKER_01: They just do everything themselves. Whereas I wanted to focus on growth to go out there and get new customers.
[05:12] SPEAKER_01: I used that inheritance to hire this additional person and pay myself for the year.
[05:18] SPEAKER_00: What is the long-term vision? What will your company look like in the future? Do you see the company expanding into other areas and where beyond Vancouver, BC, or even Canada?
[05:29] SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right. The plan is either next year or the year after, we'll open up two offices in Alberta that proves our hypothesis that we can grow into different province.
[05:40] SPEAKER_01: Then the plan is to open up four Ontario and then eventually down to the US.
[05:46] SPEAKER_00: We've learned a little bit about you and your company. Now we want to focus a little bit on Vancouver.
[05:51] SPEAKER_00: What are the biggest benefits for you and being an entrepreneur here in Vancouver, BC? I want you to give some of the good points about starting a company here.
[05:59] SPEAKER_00: But I also want you to give us some of the tough things or challenges for our listeners so they can keep an eye on for them.
[06:05] SPEAKER_01: Robert, I've actually listened to a couple of your guests and let's be honest, the answer is very similar.
[06:11] SPEAKER_01: I just think the people in Vancouver are so friendly. They're so open to grabbing a cup of coffee.
[06:18] SPEAKER_01: As a bookkeeping firm, I don't do any taps or audits. One of my main strategies is just to connect with all the accountants in town and say, I don't compete with you, compliment you, have a win-win relationship here.
[06:32] SPEAKER_01: I literally just emailed many, many accounts and they're like, yeah, sure, have your grab coffee.
[06:38] SPEAKER_01: That's huge because at the end of the day, it's about who you know. Being able to open so many doors, that's a huge advantage in Vancouver.
[06:46] SPEAKER_01: Networking is critical.
[06:48] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and on that, not even just being open to meetings, but there's just so many events in Vancouver.
[06:54] SPEAKER_01: I think that's incredible. We have a great ecosystem of startups, tech companies. If you go to Eventbrader, just kind of look up events in town or meet up, there's just so many.
[07:07] SPEAKER_01: When you show up to an event where you've never been, there are super welcoming. You can step into a circle, say hello, introduce yourself, and you'll be part of that group.
[07:17] SPEAKER_01: I think that's a real benefit to Vancouver being such a diverse community.
[07:23] SPEAKER_00: Okay, now the tough things.
[07:24] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the tough things cost.
[07:28] SPEAKER_01: The real estate is very expensive, rent is really expensive.
[07:32] SPEAKER_01: And as a result, the staffing is expensive as well because you need to pay a little bit of wage.
[07:38] SPEAKER_01: That being said, it just drives us to find more efficiencies, more ways to work remotely, to do more work with less people.
[07:47] SPEAKER_01: I guess there's kind of a side benefit there. So when we do go to a place where it costs a living, maybe not so high.
[07:55] SPEAKER_01: What will have a great advantage there?
[07:58] SPEAKER_00: Okay, we do some of our best work outside the office. Is there a place in the lower mainland close to where you live or work, where you like to go recharge or get inspired or just think about your business?
[08:08] SPEAKER_00: And does it change with the season considering all the rain we get here?
[08:12] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think exercise is really helpful for me to go recharge, but I'm actually not a huge outdoors person.
[08:21] SPEAKER_01: So what I would like to do is I do a hot yoga. I would go to the gym to an hour or so to really relax and I'm wind.
[08:31] SPEAKER_01: And I guess when it's nicer, I would just walk around the lake. So there's a lake by where I live.
[08:35] SPEAKER_01: I go down, do a couple rounds and that's really helpful to get some fresh air.
[08:40] SPEAKER_01: In a summertime, or maybe not even some time, I would do a lot of indoor rock climbing as well. I find that quite meditative because you're both physically exercising, but also engaging your mind.
[08:53] SPEAKER_01: And that's a really relaxing way from it to on wind.
[08:58] SPEAKER_00: Okay. Now we have a lot of international listeners, so I want you to speak to them on this next question.
[09:03] SPEAKER_00: If you want to start all over again and you just moved here to Vancouver, BC, but this time you don't know anyone knowing what you know now, what would you do and how you go about starting all over again as an entrepreneur?
[09:16] SPEAKER_01: Yeah. It sounds quite cliche.
[09:20] SPEAKER_01: I should awesome communities. So I really get out there and meet people. So practically speaking, just literally go to meetup.com or event bright and find what you're interested in.
[09:34] SPEAKER_01: And you'll see tons of events in your local area. I find there's actually more events from September to June than in the summer. It's kind of follows the school year.
[09:43] SPEAKER_01: People go away from for the summer. So, you know, if you're if you move in here in the summertime, I guess just enjoy yourself, enjoy yourself, get settled in September.
[09:53] SPEAKER_01: Time to hustle, right? Go go to these meetup events and just talk to people, get their business cards and then follow up with them for a cup of coffee and get connected.
[10:02] SPEAKER_01: I think a really important part for getting yourself into the community is number one, knowing what you need and want and number two, figuring out how you can add value to people.
[10:14] SPEAKER_01: So, for example, you know, let's say I'm going to a new city, brand new city in Vancouver and I'm wanting to start my booking business.
[10:22] SPEAKER_01: Well, my ask my desire is to get connected with other accountants. So, I would say, hey, I'm looking to meet with accounts and people are so willing to help.
[10:32] SPEAKER_01: So, just ask for that and I'll be there to help you. On the other hand, always listen out for what they're looking for. Maybe they're saying, hey, you know, I'm starting a tech business and I'm looking to expand with the US.
[10:47] SPEAKER_01: Now, let's say you are from the US, you say, oh, where in the US do you want to expand into? I know someone there. And if you can add value by bringing your network as a non Vancouver, right?
[10:56] SPEAKER_01: I think that would be tremendous as well.
[10:58] SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's talk about your routine here. What does the first hour look like for you when you get up in the morning? Do you have a specific routine or a ritual that helps you get motivated to start your day?
[11:09] SPEAKER_01: I didn't use to until a friend texted me. He said, you should have a routine because meditation really, really helpful.
[11:17] SPEAKER_01: I can't do meditation because I can't sit in one place. I just think and he said, just go for a walk. So, that's actually really helpful.
[11:24] SPEAKER_01: So just recently, I wake up at 5, 3 or 6 a.m. I literally just roll on the bed, leave my phone at home, go for a walk.
[11:35] SPEAKER_01: And that's actually been really good because it's nice and quiet. Nobody, and I have 10 to 15 minutes just to be with my thought. And yeah, that's what family routine these days.
[11:46] SPEAKER_00: Do you think entrepreneurs have to be weird or unique in a positive way or wired differently?
[11:53] SPEAKER_01: I think so. I mean, I think I get jaded or I should say desensitize because I hang out with so many entrepreneurs all the time that I think that's normal, but it's not.
[12:05] SPEAKER_01: You know, you look at some people that they just want a 9 to 5 job. They just don't want to worry about anything after they come home.
[12:15] SPEAKER_01: And I think it takes a special person to want to take the risk to bear the responsibility to push you the difficulties.
[12:26] SPEAKER_01: I think Elon Musk, if someone said that entrepreneurship is like eating glass and pretending you have to enjoy it.
[12:31] SPEAKER_01: And time and time again, at least once a month, I would feel that way. Maybe I should give up, but no, I can't because this is my dream.
[12:39] SPEAKER_01: I want to push through. So, you know, it takes a certain kind of person to be able to push through that difficult.
[12:47] SPEAKER_00: That's interesting. You bring up Elon Musk because that's where that question stems from because I saw an interview with his mother one time and his mother said he's always been a little weird.
[12:58] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I was been a misfit. I wanted to kind of do things on my own or do things differently and not fall the hurt.
[13:07] SPEAKER_01: In fact, falling the hurt kind of gives me that visceral reaction like no, don't fall the hurt. Do something unique.
[13:15] SPEAKER_00: Yeah. Okay. What books are you reading now and why or even audio books and can you recommend any books for listeners who are also aspiring entrepreneurs?
[13:25] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I really, really love listening to Gary Vandercock. He just gives it to you straight not only on the motivational side of business building side.
[13:34] SPEAKER_01: He has a lot of great marketing ideas and because of him, I've recently started to do some Facebook advertising as well.
[13:41] SPEAKER_01: So, his recent book, Ask Gary V. Amazing.
[13:45] SPEAKER_01: Actually, they have the audio book. I don't have a physical book book. And if you listen to that audio book, it's actually quite unique because it's like a super doesn't actually read the book word for word.
[13:55] SPEAKER_01: He actually does almost like a Q&A interview and apparently his personality really shines through in that book.
[14:02] SPEAKER_00: That's awesome. I like how blunt he is. Yeah, that's just right to the core isn't he? Just knows it every time.
[14:10] SPEAKER_00: Any online or offline tools that you like to use on a daily basis, pink or pen, obviously use Excel, things like that. Anything that you would tell us about?
[14:21] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not sure if you heard Robert. So, we have the regular Gmail, right? The Gmail app. There's actually an app that kind of lays over that. It's called inbox. Have you heard of that before? No. Okay.
[14:32] SPEAKER_01: So, I use inbox all the day, all the time. I really, really like it because you can snooze things and you can create reminders.
[14:41] SPEAKER_01: And snoozing is really, really awesome because there's just sometimes, you know, I follow the inbox zero methods. I've said, in my inbox, it means it's not dealt with and I didn't think about it.
[14:50] SPEAKER_01: But sometimes I can't action on it because I have to wait for something or someone. So, you know, if you just swipe left, you can actually snooze to a future date.
[14:59] SPEAKER_01: And so, it allows you to clear your head, clear your task list without basically marking it off as done and it will pop back up on Monday or on Wednesday or even snooze to a location as well.
[15:14] SPEAKER_01: Like, remind me when I'm at home. And so, that app has been really awesome in helping me manage my email and I get tons of emails a day. So, this has been really, really helpful.
[15:23] SPEAKER_00: Okay. Well, as you know, Vancouver is a very beautiful place. There's so much to do here. We've got the mountains, lakes, streams, parks, you name it. It's here.
[15:31] SPEAKER_00: How do you balance work and how do you relax and not even think about work and what are your favorite activities to do here in BC? Do you ski by kayak golf hiker simply go for a drive?
[15:42] SPEAKER_01: Do your asses know I guess that's what makes it a bit weird as the entrepreneur living in Vancouver. I actually enjoy interactivity a bit more.
[15:51] SPEAKER_01: You know, I like indoor rock climbing, I do go for walks, but if it's too wet or snowy outside, I wouldn't do that. I don't do hiking. I'm more of a inside.
[16:06] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, inside, not even just in the house, but also in my head. I love to think, I like to plan. It's kind of one of those play now, play later. I want to I want to pay now. And then I can play later.
[16:19] SPEAKER_01: You know, whatever I don't want when I make it, whatever that means.
[16:23] SPEAKER_00: If you weren't doing what you do now, what would you like to do for a profession?
[16:28] SPEAKER_00: I wasn't doing what I'm doing now. Yeah, you weren't doing accounting.
[16:32] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think to me, the counting is just the vehicle. I mean, I enjoy the practice. I enjoy the profession. I enjoy the work. But more importantly, I love the the journey of entrepreneurship.
[16:45] SPEAKER_01: So anything that that I'm doing, when I'm starting something or or innovating something, that that'd be really, really good. But let's say let's be more specific. I would probably be actually an HR person.
[17:01] SPEAKER_01: I love leadership and I love teaching leadership. And I think every organization needs to improve and grow their leadership capability. So I would probably be an HR consultant.
[17:12] SPEAKER_01: What kind of a job would you not like to do? Couldn't do it.
[17:17] SPEAKER_01: Couldn't do it. Yeah, something monotonous like bookkeeping. I just kidding.
[17:23] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think to to an extent that that's true. You know, we although we are both keeping firm, we try to do everything through technology, try to make things more efficient.
[17:32] SPEAKER_01: And so we're trying to, you know, bring a non non normal way to do the monotonous tasks.
[17:41] SPEAKER_00: In business, what is your favorite word quote or sentence that you like to use?
[17:47] SPEAKER_00: Everything rises and falls on leadership.
[17:52] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so leadership is the cornerstone of everything that begins with starting businesses and staff and things like that.
[18:03] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly. You know, people are the right people are your most important asset.
[18:09] SPEAKER_01: And the only way to motivate your team and keep them engaged is to be a great.
[18:16] SPEAKER_00: What would you say are some of the traits of a good leader? Just say I'm short, just a really short one.
[18:23] SPEAKER_01: And a line of yeah, I'll say it starts from having the right heart.
[18:28] SPEAKER_01: Heart to serve people to love people and to help them get to where they need to go.
[18:34] SPEAKER_01: So I've heard a quote that says, if you help enough people get to where they want to go, the farther along you will get to where you want to be.
[18:45] SPEAKER_00: What is your least favorite word or sentence you do not like to hear?
[18:51] SPEAKER_00: I tried.
[18:54] SPEAKER_01: It's one of those.
[18:56] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
[18:57] SPEAKER_01: I tried, but it's not done yet. So you try.
[19:01] SPEAKER_00: Okay. If you had to pick one or two words to describe yourself, what would it be and why describe myself?
[19:10] SPEAKER_00: Are you energetic, thoughtful, interesting?
[19:15] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[19:17] SPEAKER_01: It's in my great executor.
[19:22] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you get things done.
[19:23] SPEAKER_01: I get things done.
[19:25] SPEAKER_01: And I live up to my promises.
[19:29] SPEAKER_01: So I live up to my words.
[19:31] SPEAKER_01: I would say also maybe this is too narcissistic, but I would say I am a good leader. That's the way I want to view myself.
[19:41] SPEAKER_01: What keeps you up at night if anything?
[19:44] SPEAKER_01: For me, I really want to accomplish something significant in my life.
[19:50] SPEAKER_01: So when that is threatened, then I really feel insecure.
[19:55] SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure a lot of entrepreneurs feel the same way.
[19:59] SPEAKER_01: You know, they step into this game because they want to accomplish something and a lot of their identities wrapped up in what they accomplish or are the want to accomplish.
[20:08] SPEAKER_01: So if that is threatened, it really keeps me up at night.
[20:11] SPEAKER_00: Give us the top three things on your inspired lifeless. This could be anything from philanthropy, writing books, TEDx, talks, travel.
[20:21] SPEAKER_01: Yeah. Actually, it's funny that you asked that. I actually, I'm 28 right now and turning 32 years and recently planned out my what I want to accomplish by the time 30, 40, 15, etc.
[20:35] SPEAKER_01: So one of my things I want to visit every state in the US, I think the USA is so diverse and everything has got its own unique quirks are really, really interested in getting to know that culture a bit more.
[20:48] SPEAKER_01: I want to be a more familiar, I want to build a billion dollar business, I think that would be really, really cool.
[20:56] SPEAKER_01: And then be an angel, a master of venture capitalist, I don't know the interstaging light.
[21:00] SPEAKER_00: So you'd like to kind of get involved and start up communities, look at companies that are up and coming that have very progressive and cutting edge, that kind of stuff.
[21:11] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
[21:12] SPEAKER_00: Okay, do you have any advice that you may have received that you can pass on to entrepreneurs throughout BC?
[21:22] SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure if it's, you know, Vancouver or BC specific, but in terms of advice, I was I was saying staying connected with your local community has been, you know, really, really good.
[21:42] SPEAKER_01: I have a lot of mentors and getting, you know, getting mentorship is actually one of the key things you can do.
[21:49] SPEAKER_01: And one important advice that I got through the mentor process is that you don't need to ask someone to be a formal mentor for you.
[21:58] SPEAKER_01: You just have to have questions. So a lot of people stressed, how do I get a mentor? How do I get mentor? It doesn't matter.
[22:03] SPEAKER_01: You can just sit down with someone, have a list of questions, shut up, listen, and ask mentorship.
[22:09] SPEAKER_01: And if you can follow up with them in a month or so and say, Hey, look, thank you for your advice.
[22:13] SPEAKER_01: Based on our conversation, I agree to do one, two, three, and I've done one to three. Thank you for your input.
[22:19] SPEAKER_01: And I think that is a great way to increase your network and build that mentorship relationship.
[22:25] SPEAKER_00: That's interesting. You say that because a lot of people probably do think, how do I find a mentor and what you explain there is you don't have to have a mentor per se.
[22:32] SPEAKER_00: You can just really just ask those questions and learn from that or yeah, yeah, it could be someone you even need catnect with on social media, linked in or a Facebook or something like that.
[22:41] SPEAKER_00: I have a lot of people that I look at every single day and I learn something from them when they're posting.
[22:46] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Robert, I think there's a lot of responsibility to mentor someone.
[22:51] SPEAKER_01: So I think, you know, successful people and they have, they're very busy and they don't want to take the responsibility of being your mentor.
[22:59] SPEAKER_01: But they can then be happily answer your questions, right? So if you can just reach out to them and have those to five to ten questions, that's mentorship right there.
[23:08] SPEAKER_00: Okay, Bob, you ready to have some fun? Let's do it.
[23:12] SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, as you know, entrepreneurs are very, very busy people. We're working all the time. We're always connected. Always on the go. You name it. We're doing it.
[23:20] SPEAKER_00: We're going to take you away from all that. There's a small tropical island just off of Fiji that only has one phone booth there and there is no internet. This place does exist.
[23:29] SPEAKER_00: We're going to drop you off there. You won't have a computer or a smartphone or a tablet. You can use the phone booth located there any time to call the boat. We'll come pick you up.
[23:37] SPEAKER_00: How long would you last before you made that call? And what would you do while you were there?
[23:42] SPEAKER_01: Okay, it sounds like my typical vacation when I'm not luck touched the phone.
[23:48] SPEAKER_01: I would say three days. My wife and I have gone on in our vacations together that we know, you know, day one, I'm on wide thing, day two, I'm resting.
[23:56] SPEAKER_01: Day three. I'm kind of ready to go back to work. So I'll say three days is the max that I can step away. And what would I do? I would say I would take the time to relax. Like I said, so busy.
[24:07] SPEAKER_01: I would just a on a beach, not think or maybe think and plan and dream a little bit, but there's not not fret. I enjoy myself and then at the end of three days, I'm ready to go back and into it.
[24:19] SPEAKER_00: And you call on the boat. Okay, good. Okay, we're going to wrap things up. How can listeners get hold of you? Is there anything you'd like to add before you leave us today?
[24:30] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they can find me on Twitter, ads, LinkedIn, and there as well, Facebook as well.
[24:40] SPEAKER_01: I would say, you know, dream big and then share that with everyone.
[24:44] SPEAKER_01: There's something magical about having a big dream and just talking about it all the time, living in that new reality that's only true to you.
[24:54] SPEAKER_01: And I think eventually it will happen persistence. That's right. Dreaming big and then, you know, living or living in that dream that you've already, as if you've already achieved it.
[25:08] SPEAKER_00: So I guess that's when you start really kind of conceptualizing it and that's right. Yeah, that's great word. Yeah, getting into that mode.
[25:17] SPEAKER_00: Okay, Bob, thank you for coming on the show. I've learned a lot about you and I'm sure our listeners have as well.
[25:22] SPEAKER_00: Thanks Robert. We'll see you next time. See you.
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