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[00:00] SPEAKER_04: Welcome to Candace Podcast.
[00:06] SPEAKER_04: Hi there, I'm Phil Bliss and welcome to Candace Podcast coming to you today from Toronto.
[00:11] SPEAKER_04: Today we're going to meet Nadia Marwa who is an Indian Canadian photographer,
[00:16] SPEAKER_04: film production professional and founder of the Photo Poets Society, a mindful wedding photography company.
[00:24] SPEAKER_04: She began her career in Mumbai, India before relocated to Toronto.
[00:28] SPEAKER_04: She left her hometown at the age of 19 to pursue an education in communication design
[00:36] SPEAKER_04: at the MIT Institute of Design and completed a postgraduate program in film production at the Vancouver Film School.
[00:45] SPEAKER_04: Her profound experience of deep meditation shifted her perspective on life.
[00:52] SPEAKER_04: She is now a mindful visual creator, specialising in photography and film,
[00:58] SPEAKER_04: and alongside that wedding and occasion photography.
[01:02] SPEAKER_04: She's collaborated with musicians, film professionals, including three times Juno and Arminati,
[01:09] SPEAKER_04: musician Alicia Brula and Canadian actor, director and musicians Steven McCarthy.
[01:15] SPEAKER_04: Additionally, she's worked with businesses and not-for-profits organisation,
[01:20] SPEAKER_04: such as Compost Digital Ventures and South by Southwestern Austin.
[01:26] SPEAKER_04: So Nadia, welcome to Candace Podcast, great to have you on the podcast.
[01:30] SPEAKER_04: I'm looking forward to this story, if you like.
[01:35] SPEAKER_04: But before we get too deep into conversation, tell us a bit about yourself,
[01:40] SPEAKER_04: what you do and how you got here basically.
[01:45] SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me.
[01:46] SPEAKER_01: I felt like when I saw you the other day, and you said it's open for all entrepreneurs,
[01:50] SPEAKER_01: I was like, this is too good to be true.
[01:52] SPEAKER_01: I think it's a, I really appreciate you taking that opening that up for a lot of entrepreneurs.
[02:01] SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
[02:02] SPEAKER_01: So I actually, it's such a long story,
[02:05] SPEAKER_01: but I definitely like to try to see and have a brief read up.
[02:11] SPEAKER_01: My entrepreneurial journey, I think, started in Canada,
[02:15] SPEAKER_01: but I was working as a photographer for a very long time back in India as well.
[02:21] SPEAKER_01: And the reason I got into photography, I studied my undergrad was in a design college in Pune, India.
[02:30] SPEAKER_01: And I was studying graphic design.
[02:33] SPEAKER_01: And I didn't enjoy, like, I love looking at good graphic design,
[02:37] SPEAKER_01: but I just didn't enjoy sitting on a laptop and creating that just wasn't working for me.
[02:44] SPEAKER_01: And in the middle, we had a photography class, which was just like a one week class.
[02:50] SPEAKER_01: And I think just having the tool, I bought a small, my first camera was like a very small Canon camera.
[02:57] SPEAKER_01: I bought a small camera and we had this assignment, we had to do 10 photos of textures and 10 photos of,
[03:05] SPEAKER_01: you know, like just a very basic beginning into the thing.
[03:09] SPEAKER_01: And just taking it out, and I think it's like almost a tool that helps you explore a world further than what you see.
[03:17] SPEAKER_01: Because it really makes you focus on something that you probably would have missed if you were just walking past by it.
[03:26] SPEAKER_01: And I think for me, that was a very, like, I'm generally an introspective person.
[03:31] SPEAKER_01: So I feel like for me, that just actually lightened like my soul.
[03:35] SPEAKER_01: It was, it helped me see light better, it helped me see people better, it helped me see textures better.
[03:42] SPEAKER_01: And I felt like I started looking at the world again with like this fresh pair of eyes.
[03:48] SPEAKER_01: And that was just like my attachment, like that's how it actually began to me to just hold the camera.
[03:54] SPEAKER_01: And I would just go on long walks by myself, early in the morning.
[03:58] SPEAKER_01: And like I would just shoot, like I would just look for things that fit in that world where something was happening.
[04:07] SPEAKER_01: And it's so interesting because every time you take the camera out, like it feels like, oh, this is a great photograph.
[04:13] SPEAKER_01: And then you come back and you're like, no, this was necessarily something else that you shot very, very intuitive thing that you didn't think was that great.
[04:23] SPEAKER_01: And it has something very special in it that you find out later.
[04:26] SPEAKER_01: So I think it's just almost like a journey for self-discovery.
[04:32] SPEAKER_01: So my camera, like the relationship between me and the camera was the first place.
[04:37] SPEAKER_01: I knew this is something I want to do further.
[04:39] SPEAKER_01: And I want to like hold on to further.
[04:43] SPEAKER_01: And during that time, that's how I found the camera.
[04:47] SPEAKER_01: And then I ordered the camera found me.
[04:50] SPEAKER_01: But there was a guy in India, his name is Joseph Radhik.
[04:56] SPEAKER_01: And he was doing, I think one of the first few people who bought a new twist to wedding photography.
[05:04] SPEAKER_01: And he had a full-on, corporate job, I believe it was Colgate.
[05:09] SPEAKER_01: And then he just completely left his job, started his company.
[05:14] SPEAKER_01: And basically had like a few photographers under him and really bought, like meaning and narrative to weddings.
[05:21] SPEAKER_01: Which didn't exist before in India at all.
[05:24] SPEAKER_01: I think maybe in the best it was there, but he was the first person to really like open up that world in India.
[05:30] SPEAKER_01: And now he's doing like really, really big projects.
[05:35] SPEAKER_01: Like he's shooting all the big celebrity weddings and Pianka Chopra and H.O.N.A.
[05:40] SPEAKER_01: And even like bigger projects than that.
[05:42] SPEAKER_01: So I started my first internship with him in India in Bombay.
[05:50] SPEAKER_01: And also like I felt like I was also very extroverted when I was younger, especially.
[05:55] SPEAKER_01: I feel like I was very extroverted when I was younger.
[05:57] SPEAKER_01: And just to be around so many people and also do what I love.
[06:03] SPEAKER_01: And also like almost like it's like an internal relationship with the camera and an external relationship with people.
[06:10] SPEAKER_01: And it's like the dance that you kind of do when you're photographing people.
[06:13] SPEAKER_01: And for me I felt like, so I work as a wedding photographer.
[06:18] SPEAKER_01: And I feel like wedding was almost like a film stage set.
[06:22] SPEAKER_01: And you kind of like go into it and out of it.
[06:28] SPEAKER_01: And you kind of tell the story into the pieces.
[06:30] SPEAKER_01: And I feel like the story lies not on what we mostly see on the outside of a wedding, like how we see it.
[06:37] SPEAKER_01: But in the inside of that family, like every family is so different.
[06:43] SPEAKER_01: Like a couple is so different.
[06:45] SPEAKER_01: Like the story between every person is so different.
[06:48] SPEAKER_01: And I feel like that's where the narrative really lies.
[06:51] SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
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[07:02] SPEAKER_04: I have to, you know, the comms go, you know, the photopolis society.
[07:08] SPEAKER_04: I think obviously dead poets society comes to mind inside.
[07:13] SPEAKER_04: It's an interesting thing.
[07:15] SPEAKER_04: But you know, you do business in Vancouver and Toronto and India.
[07:18] SPEAKER_04: I think some people would be very interested to know how you manage that.
[07:26] SPEAKER_04: You know, you know, it's not like you're a big multinational corporation.
[07:30] SPEAKER_04: How do you manage doing, you never mind, you know, one continent on opposite sides.
[07:38] SPEAKER_04: But another continent that's, you know, not exactly the small continent either.
[07:44] SPEAKER_04: How do you, how do you manage to look after it?
[07:51] SPEAKER_01: So it's, I think it's like that dance again.
[07:55] SPEAKER_01: I feel like what happens with like India and Canada is really great.
[07:59] SPEAKER_01: That Canada, all the weddings happen in the summer season.
[08:02] SPEAKER_01: In May, March, May, June, July, August, March, September, we want to.
[08:09] SPEAKER_01: And then all the weddings in India happen in the winter.
[08:13] SPEAKER_01: So they happen in like November, December, January, February.
[08:16] SPEAKER_01: So it's like a perfect route to kind of do that because it doesn't necessarily clash into each other.
[08:22] SPEAKER_01: Like the season is very different.
[08:24] SPEAKER_01: And it's a, when I actually started like the business business part of like doing things officially and legally.
[08:32] SPEAKER_01: And like in a way that like an entrepreneur, Jerry is set in Canada.
[08:39] SPEAKER_01: And I believe that India was doing more of freelancing work.
[08:44] SPEAKER_01: But now that I'm doing that, like I'm trying, I'm shooting like weddings in India as well.
[08:50] SPEAKER_01: But I'm shooting it from like under like this company in Canada.
[08:54] SPEAKER_01: So it's actually quite nice because I have family there.
[08:57] SPEAKER_01: So I like if I get booked, then I get to travel back to India and like do my work.
[09:02] SPEAKER_01: And then I come back here and I edit the photographs and stuff like that.
[09:06] SPEAKER_01: But I don't like think my like, yeah, like I believe my entrepreneurial journey started really here.
[09:12] SPEAKER_01: I feel like Canada really made like there's a lot of resources.
[09:19] SPEAKER_01: And there's a lot of support and there's a lot of help around like new entrepreneurs.
[09:25] SPEAKER_01: Which I felt like I was kind of like like I have no entrepreneurial family background like zero.
[09:33] SPEAKER_01: Like my father is a doctor. My mom is an art teacher.
[09:37] SPEAKER_01: My brother is in medical, my sister is in finance.
[09:40] SPEAKER_01: Like there's just like like zero entrepreneur talk.
[09:43] SPEAKER_01: And that has never been and it's a risk to take like I feel.
[09:47] SPEAKER_01: And I also like didn't know that that was the, that was something I would step into.
[09:52] SPEAKER_01: But I think like it's I just knew that this is something I want to do.
[09:55] SPEAKER_01: And I've always liked to like work in that way where I find fulfillment.
[10:03] SPEAKER_01: And I think that kind of started the whole thing.
[10:06] SPEAKER_01: And when I was in India, it was mostly like, it was all over the place.
[10:10] SPEAKER_01: Like when I was doing like my things, it was mostly like the freelance.
[10:13] SPEAKER_01: And I would get invited to a shoot and I would shoot.
[10:16] SPEAKER_01: But it was nothing like officially kind of done.
[10:18] SPEAKER_01: And for to put it to sight, he started like in Canada in Vancouver.
[10:24] SPEAKER_01: And so in fact, like this June, I'm traveling back to Vancouver again.
[10:28] SPEAKER_01: And then I come back again to Toronto.
[10:32] SPEAKER_01: So it's and I know a lot of wedding photographers as well who travel all around the world.
[10:39] SPEAKER_01: And like they're shooting like a lot of Indian photographers are shooting outside.
[10:43] SPEAKER_01: Like in Italy, it's like the destination spot.
[10:45] SPEAKER_01: So I feel like the journey of wedding photographers is like a very like all over the world kind of.
[10:53] SPEAKER_04: Yes, funny because you know, a friend of mine, I interviewed him for Canada's broadcast.
[10:58] SPEAKER_04: It's not live yet.
[11:00] SPEAKER_04: About three weeks ago, he's also a photographer in the Groomsby, just in Niagara region.
[11:08] SPEAKER_04: And you know, he's been in that area for, you know, he took over his dad's business basically for 30 years.
[11:17] SPEAKER_04: And he's made his life, you know, pretty successful photographer in that area.
[11:27] SPEAKER_04: And I'm just sort of curious to know the difference between that, you know, the high street photographer local and your role and the challenge.
[11:42] SPEAKER_04: Obviously, you're maybe attracting a different kind of profile.
[11:49] SPEAKER_04: So it's interesting in the challenge of that.
[11:53] SPEAKER_04: What does that mean in terms of promotion to that kind of thing?
[12:02] SPEAKER_04: I mean, he's running social locally and you know, promoting himself locally.
[12:08] SPEAKER_04: How do you get those, you know, how do you get your customers basically?
[12:14] SPEAKER_04: Just curious.
[12:16] SPEAKER_04: Is it is it all, you know, referrals or actively out there promoting basically?
[12:26] SPEAKER_01: Does he shoot weddings actually become just curious?
[12:29] SPEAKER_01: Does your friend photograph weddings?
[12:33] SPEAKER_04: Yes, he does.
[12:34] SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
[12:35] SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
[12:35] Speaker UNKNOWN: I see.
[12:36] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of a...
[12:38] SPEAKER_04: I mean, all kinds of weddings.
[12:41] SPEAKER_04: Founding is...
[12:42] SPEAKER_04: No, he goes on studio locally and stuff like that.
[12:47] SPEAKER_01: That's a very interesting find that you mentioned.
[12:49] SPEAKER_01: I feel like because I'm an immigrant and also I...
[12:55] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think I'm also because internet opened, OHAB has opened up borders almost like for all of us.
[13:03] SPEAKER_01: I think these two factors definitely play a role in that because for me, like, home is such a...
[13:11] SPEAKER_01: It's such...
[13:12] SPEAKER_01: It's an interesting place, right?
[13:14] SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not in India, but I know that is also home.
[13:17] SPEAKER_01: And I know this is also home.
[13:21] SPEAKER_01: And I think, yeah, I think internet and I also believe like as an immigrant,
[13:26] SPEAKER_01: like, I don't see travel as like, travel, like, I feel like...
[13:31] SPEAKER_01: And for some reason, I do get stability in motion, like, every time I'm traveling from one place or the other,
[13:37] SPEAKER_01: like, I find some stability, like, I feel very stagnant in one place and that's just me.
[13:43] SPEAKER_01: But I think like...
[13:46] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's almost like because I've traveled from an Indian and Canada not close.
[13:52] SPEAKER_01: So it's always a long, long journey.
[13:54] SPEAKER_01: And I think one of the reasons for me to move from Vancouver to Toronto is because it already reduces five hours to go to India every time if I have to go.
[14:03] SPEAKER_01: Because between Toronto and Vancouver, there's such a big distance.
[14:08] SPEAKER_01: So I think it's the internet and it's also definitely...
[14:15] SPEAKER_01: And I find that the Canada is such an interesting place because there are people from all around the world here.
[14:21] SPEAKER_01: So in fact, I had a client last year and they...
[14:26] SPEAKER_01: Like, they're also like a mixed, like, mixed racial plan.
[14:30] SPEAKER_01: So basically, like, the groom...
[14:32] SPEAKER_01: The groom was Italian and the bride was Indian.
[14:37] SPEAKER_01: But like, the bride's family had moved to Italy a long time ago and now both of them have moved to Canada.
[14:42] SPEAKER_01: So I feel like...
[14:43] SPEAKER_01: Actually, now that you're saying it, I'm realizing a lot of my clients are people who making those shifts in their lives.
[14:51] SPEAKER_01: A lot of them are like moving, like, for whatever reasons, for a better life or just that shift of future, but I think...
[15:00] SPEAKER_01: And they asked me to shoot the wedding, which was in Italy.
[15:05] SPEAKER_01: So it was just really interesting to shoot an Indian Italian wedding in Italy.
[15:10] SPEAKER_01: And I saw it in a very different way.
[15:12] SPEAKER_01: It almost felt like I was half in India, half in Italy.
[15:15] SPEAKER_01: Part of Italy, the groom's side was very Italian and the bride's side was very Indian.
[15:23] SPEAKER_01: And they were like...
[15:24] SPEAKER_04: You're being interesting.
[15:26] SPEAKER_04: So you started this...
[15:29] SPEAKER_04: You may know obviously you've been photography for a while, but you started this venture a couple of years ago.
[15:35] SPEAKER_01: Three years now, even.
[15:37] SPEAKER_04: And I'm interested to know, kind of...
[15:40] SPEAKER_04: For others, the challenges that you met, you know, money, clients...
[15:49] SPEAKER_04: What are the... let's say, what are the top two challenges that you either had overcome, or you're still working on it?
[16:00] SPEAKER_04: Can you talk about that?
[16:03] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely. I still feel like I'm building my network here, like if I can be honest.
[16:07] SPEAKER_01: I feel like I keep moving so much that I'm always a float at every time, like how your friend has a setup.
[16:14] SPEAKER_01: And everyone knows that the simple person to go to isn't that like India and like I'm sure like further beyond.
[16:21] SPEAKER_01: But I feel like I've moved so much, I've associated myself from one place to the other.
[16:26] SPEAKER_01: And by the time I started making the network, I'm like, you know, I've rooted from there another place.
[16:31] SPEAKER_01: So I feel that's definitely been a challenge.
[16:33] SPEAKER_01: You know, it could be in a bad way.
[16:35] SPEAKER_01: Like I've found a lot of different kinds of people that I've met, a lot of different kinds of people.
[16:40] SPEAKER_01: And I think in the longer run, it's going to be a very interesting journey.
[16:43] SPEAKER_01: But I think that's definitely always a challenge of like moving from one place to the other.
[16:49] SPEAKER_01: And even I think as a person who has come from a different country, who doesn't have a home to fall back or do or stuff like that,
[16:58] SPEAKER_01: I think financial aspects of doing something on your own in a different place, in a completely different place has been an interesting place for me to maneuver.
[17:08] SPEAKER_01: Like when I started the company, I was doing like a few cafe jobs and also, you know, like I was working at Vancouver Film School at the teachers.
[17:19] SPEAKER_01: And so there were always things that I was I was juggling at the site as well to keep this going.
[17:25] SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so I think that's always.
[17:27] SPEAKER_04: I was not always almost to use the current terminology, the side hustle with other other things.
[17:36] SPEAKER_04: Have you made have you stepped forward now into the next phase of it where it's it's your focus basically.
[17:46] SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, yes.
[17:50] SPEAKER_01: And it's always definitely not beneath you. I feel like an entrepreneur journey. I don't know, especially I felt like because like.
[18:00] SPEAKER_01: Like I come from a like a design background. I went to Vancouver Film School.
[18:05] SPEAKER_01: So a lot of these like school teaching for also always around like the artistic side of things and not necessarily a very business oriented.
[18:16] SPEAKER_01: So I feel like that was something I had to like really find and learn for myself.
[18:23] SPEAKER_01: And that's something that me and my husband talk about a lot that I hope that in the future we can support like artist entrepreneurs.
[18:32] SPEAKER_01: And we can make like resources easy for them and like have like because in art schools it's all very like all over the place in terms of business.
[18:42] SPEAKER_01: Like business is never a conversation artist don't like talk about to like to talk about it.
[18:48] SPEAKER_01: It's almost like a impact. I have this long Instagram post which I wear I kind of was looking at that fact that I feel like as creative people who are sometimes you know kind of a bit of a dream.
[19:01] SPEAKER_01: As they have visions they want to do this and they were to see light in a different way music impact them and all of that.
[19:08] SPEAKER_01: And in all of that they kind of lose like or don't focus on the part that's very very important as a rational as a rational part for an entrepreneur to hold on to.
[19:21] SPEAKER_01: And I think it's one of the most important things to learn as much as you don't like to pick up a book that's going to talk about money and you would rather pick up a nice fiction and like you know you would fulfill that.
[19:34] SPEAKER_01: I think it's super super important to kind of find these resources and like singing to the world because otherwise it can be very challenging for sure.
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[19:54] SPEAKER_04: So thinking about that you know and mentorship and things like that.
[20:01] SPEAKER_04: What's the best piece of advice that you've received in this sort of journey.
[20:08] SPEAKER_01: I think consistency like doing like one day's work at a time and not getting overwhelmed by the overall changes that you have and doing that one small bit that needs to be done.
[20:24] SPEAKER_01: And then moving on to the next day I feel like the consistency never came to me before like in my earlier like part of the life I was never necessarily consistent.
[20:36] SPEAKER_01: I would do a lot of creative things but I would do it for myself.
[20:41] SPEAKER_01: And I feel like now I have started to if you see my Google calendar it is I'm actually very proud of it because it's the most organized calendar.
[20:52] SPEAKER_01: At least for me for the parts like for since I started this company like I don't like my calendar is like one of the most set pieces that I could never have imagined I would have like that.
[21:04] SPEAKER_04: So for me I think so your family aren't entrepreneurs and you you become one.
[21:14] SPEAKER_04: What what you know what have you learned what if you know if you know now you know what will you wish you what you wish you knew when you were starting out on this entrepreneurial journey.
[21:30] SPEAKER_04: Just for the set for the benefit of somebody else maybe just beginning as well.
[21:36] SPEAKER_01: Absolutely I first is to all I think like it's never too late to ask for help like it's always a good idea to find a mentor and like basically ask for that help that you might acquire and it might feel like more you know I can do this and I can figure this out of my own and stuff like I found that I've had some mentors through this.
[22:01] SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you know about this organization called the forum it's a women entrepreneur support group almost and I found some really good mentors from there and the community has been such a strong place to build myself and I think the first time I started I just didn't know where to start like it was just a completely like it was just like there was no ground beneath my feet.
[22:28] SPEAKER_04: Yeah it's a bit like me and I were you and I you and I met I mean absolutely.
[22:33] SPEAKER_04: I think these things are really these these these environments and that work in places places where you meet people if not the same as you in a similar kind of journey on similar journeys you can learn a lot.
[22:48] SPEAKER_01: Absolutely like yourself for me right like for me this is another like a relationship and and that's how you kind of I think giving it time like for sure like I think to give like to know that like if something is not working and it's kind of like going under the graph you just like have to like basically have faith I think half patients because I feel entrepreneurial journeys are never like Monday to Friday.
[23:15] SPEAKER_01: 9 to 6 that's just definitely sometimes like Wednesdays I'm like getting no inspiration novel to work so I take it off as my Saturday you know and then I have to show up and Saturday to work and that's I think some sort of discipline for sure and yeah the willingness and consistency some something to hold your counter before as well.
[23:36] SPEAKER_04: A little conversation that's probably serious stuff we've been talking about that's some fun rapid for things if you want doing what you're doing for now what you think you'd be doing instead.
[23:50] SPEAKER_01: I would love to be an actor dancer like more like theatre okay maybe a garden and also I have way too many I think I've way too many fun if you want to talk about fun I feel.
[24:05] SPEAKER_01: Like a model there so this is something I have to pull myself into yeah.
[24:11] SPEAKER_04: What book are you reading listening to and would recommend to the people read.
[24:21] SPEAKER_01: I'm reading this I'm actually reading a few but the one that stands out to me right now it's called Daring greatly and it's by the author called Brenna Brown.
[24:32] SPEAKER_01: I hope I'm pronouncing her name right but it talks about vulnerability and the courage around it and like what we're talking about before to like ask for support and stuff like but I'm honestly like not even half paying to it so I don't want to like it's a really make
[24:50] SPEAKER_01: a book for people like to know where the courage lies because sometimes in like this aspect of perfectionism we might like get disconnected from really that and there's some really good dialogue in that book.
[25:06] SPEAKER_04: Are you a morning or a night person?
[25:10] SPEAKER_01: For the past I would say almost like seven years or super morning person but before that I was like nine dollars.
[25:22] SPEAKER_04: And if you had to pick one word to describe yourself what would it be and why would you choose that word?
[25:30] SPEAKER_01: I think I'm very okay one word that's such a interesting question.
[25:34] SPEAKER_04: Well one word to be a phrase I mean let's talk to strip the murder.
[25:41] SPEAKER_01: I think I'm always changing like I feel like I started to not see myself as one thing and I'm always open to like change and because I feel like I'm starting to like really this is a long story round but I won't prove it but yeah like yeah always the link to change and adapt.
[26:02] SPEAKER_04: I'm not keeping you up at night.
[26:06] SPEAKER_01: Honestly this photo-purchase idea.
[26:09] SPEAKER_01: It's like now that it's becoming something of its own and it's not necessarily me as well.
[26:15] SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's something it's like a baby who's growing up and you have to kind of work on it's it's exciting so yeah you need this company it's a vision which is a little bit bigger than just doing like photography or something.
[26:29] SPEAKER_01: It's definitely more about ideas and concepts that I would love to incorporate.
[26:36] SPEAKER_04: And I think we're just coming to the end of the run here so how could people get a hold of you if they listen to this and they like what they're hearing and they want to talk to you how can they get a hold of you.
[26:47] SPEAKER_01: Absolutely so anyone please feel free to email me at Nadia at photo-poyate-society.com
[27:03] SPEAKER_01: and I'm Nadia as well as NADIA YA because I know there's always a YA list of some names.
[27:10] SPEAKER_01: But honestly you can find me on LinkedIn you can also find me on Instagram at photo-purchase.com and feel free to DM I would love to like support anyone in their entrepreneurial journey.
[27:23] SPEAKER_04: Nadia thanks very much great little conversation you really enjoyed it.
[27:27] SPEAKER_01: Thanks thank you for the thanks for having me.
