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Chris Simair · prairies

Chris Simair

Episode

Chris Simair is managing director of Harvest Builders in Calgary. The venture builder’s objective is to elevate innovation across the Canadian Prairies....

Key takeaways

  • Canadians think too small and are too modest when it comes to entrepreneurship, but by aligning people to a mission and vision, you can create something world-class even from prairie cities.
  • Entrepreneurs should encourage young talent to leave, gain experience elsewhere, fail early to learn how to deal with failure, and then return home to be part of the change.
  • Calgary offers deep talent pools and a strong economy, and by activating mid-market cities beyond Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, Canada could double its innovation capacity.
  • Successful entrepreneurship requires the ability to work with others who complement your unique strengths and balance out your weaknesses, rather than trying to do everything yourself.
  • Building something new means breaking new ground and creating friction through change, so the biggest challenge is bringing people along on the journey and finding allies who are already ahead on that path.

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[00:00] SPEAKER_00: It's Calgary's Podcast on the Canada's Podcast Network.
[00:07] SPEAKER_00: Hello, this is Mario Toniguzu coming to you today with Calgary's Podcast, a member
[00:12] SPEAKER_00: of Canada's Podcast Network, where we talk to the entrepreneurs who are making it happen
[00:17] SPEAKER_00: in Calgary, Alberta, so you can listen, discover, and engage.
[00:22] SPEAKER_00: Today's guest is Chris Samarit, who is managing director of Harvest Builders in Calgary.
[00:28] SPEAKER_00: Thanks for joining us today, Chris.
[00:31] SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me, Mario.
[00:33] SPEAKER_00: So, let's start just a little bit about telling me what Harvest Builders is, what it does.
[00:40] SPEAKER_01: Sure.
[00:41] SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm going to start a few years back.
[00:43] SPEAKER_01: Back when I was a kid growing up in Prince Elvis's Saskatchewan.
[00:46] SPEAKER_01: Now, a lot of people in Toronto and Ottawa may not know where it is, but it's very similar
[00:51] SPEAKER_01: to many small towns in the prairies.
[00:53] SPEAKER_01: And what's like growing up in those towns is that you really don't have a lot of opportunities.
[00:58] SPEAKER_01: That you would have in Toronto, London, New York.
[01:02] SPEAKER_01: And growing up, my aspiration was to work in the oil patch, the West, or become a doctor,
[01:07] SPEAKER_01: or become a accountant, to know the traditional paths.
[01:09] SPEAKER_01: So, for me and my family and my siblings, we always were inspired to, towards having the opportunities
[01:15] SPEAKER_01: one day at home, that dude's just a big place.
[01:18] SPEAKER_01: So, fast forward many years, we're now in a position where we're able to create these opportunities.
[01:23] SPEAKER_01: And Harvest Builders is really a way to take the lessons learned if there are experiences that skip the dishes,
[01:29] SPEAKER_01: our careers, and be able to make a playbook that can be used for a lot of entrepreneurs in the prairies to have much more successes.
[01:37] SPEAKER_00: Okay, super.
[01:38] SPEAKER_00: A little bit of the history, Chris, when did you start Harvest?
[01:42] SPEAKER_01: Harvest, so it came information after we exited skip the dishes and handed that off.
[01:48] SPEAKER_01: So, really when you started up with a plot project here in Calgary, as of last summer,
[01:55] SPEAKER_01: and now we're in the process of trying to secure headquarters, other in Calgary, South Dakota, Winnipeg,
[02:01] SPEAKER_01: but we do expect to be able to have the prince of all those cities.
[02:04] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you mentioned skip the dishes, you were a co-founder of that company.
[02:09] SPEAKER_00: Tell me what you learned through that experience that out entrepreneurship and being an entrepreneur.
[02:14] SPEAKER_01: How many hours have you gotten, Mario?
[02:16] SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think the whole time.
[02:20] SPEAKER_01: I think the biggest takeaway that if I just sum up for a lot of people in the prairies here in Calgary,
[02:26] SPEAKER_01: I think that well-learned is that Canadians, we just think too small,
[02:30] SPEAKER_01: and we are almost too modest to a fault when it comes entrepreneurship.
[02:34] SPEAKER_01: And how do you ask me, and the very first thing that we expect the dishes to be the world stage that it is,
[02:40] SPEAKER_01: I would say yes, we did, but did actually believe that we had the capability to do that in Winnipeg.
[02:46] SPEAKER_01: In Calgary, South Stoon, I'd say probably no.
[02:48] SPEAKER_01: So, but I think what my found through the experience is that by finding people who are aligned to that mission vision,
[02:54] SPEAKER_01: putting these dishes in the map, you can create something special, you can create something world class,
[02:59] SPEAKER_01: and I really hope it can be a hope to open the minds of other entrepreneurs to think bigger.
[03:04] SPEAKER_00: Okay, super then.
[03:05] SPEAKER_00: Now, doing business in Calgary these days, tell me what the benefits are that you've found.
[03:12] SPEAKER_01: Well, I think a lot more to Calgary, to Canada.
[03:16] SPEAKER_01: I think Canada is a strong grant, a very strong innovation, I guess, culture,
[03:22] SPEAKER_01: and it's no different in Calgary as well.
[03:25] SPEAKER_01: What Calgary brings to table is that you have an environment where you have a rich, rich deep-pulled talent,
[03:32] SPEAKER_01: you have a very strong economy still today, even with the up and downs compared to a place such as East Coast,
[03:41] SPEAKER_01: or Winnipeg, but you don't have a lot of diversity.
[03:45] SPEAKER_01: So, what that means is that when you have these boys, these kind of gaps in the ecosystem, it creates opportunity.
[03:50] SPEAKER_01: And in Calgary, I think the next chapter will be looking towards other entrepreneurs, corporations,
[03:56] SPEAKER_01: even government can evolve to help fill those gaps and in catch up, there's the world.
[04:01] SPEAKER_01: Okay, what are you most excited about when it comes to harvest these days?
[04:06] SPEAKER_01: The people, Mario, it's exciting that it thrills me, is it about building teams at scale and achieve large goals.
[04:13] SPEAKER_01: So, is this the potential, and I'm not going to be potential, how these men market.
[04:18] SPEAKER_01: And if we can activate the talent here in Calgary, we imagine that if we can activate all the cities in the men markets,
[04:23] SPEAKER_01: but set a Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver, Canada can basically double itself in terms of innovation.
[04:28] SPEAKER_01: And the world, just on, maybe the whole world can activate that for us.
[04:31] SPEAKER_01: So, it's really exciting that Calgary can be a birthplace for a lot of innovation.
[04:34] SPEAKER_00: What's been your biggest challenge, just setting up harvest?
[04:39] SPEAKER_01: There is many obstacles because anytime you're in the world entrepreneurship,
[04:44] SPEAKER_01: you really, by definition, you're peeping you ground.
[04:47] SPEAKER_01: So, the biggest challenge you have is just about changing the normal way of building things.
[04:51] SPEAKER_01: So, that means talking to politicians, to government bodies, to academia, to corporations that entrepreneurs in the city.
[04:57] SPEAKER_01: And being able to do a new path, and that means a lot of friction change.
[05:03] SPEAKER_01: People are inherently good at change, but sometimes it's also more difficult sometimes if you use a certain way of doing it.
[05:08] SPEAKER_01: So, a lot of the obstacles and hurdles that I face every day is about trying to be people along the journey in.
[05:13] SPEAKER_01: And finding allies who are already ahead of me on that, and teaming up together.
[05:18] SPEAKER_01: So, it's trying to get that culture shift, I think is a big obstacle, the opportunity for coming.
[05:22] SPEAKER_00: So, over the years, you're obviously talking to a lot of people.
[05:26] SPEAKER_00: Tell me what you think may have been the best piece of advice you've ever received about being an entrepreneur.
[05:33] SPEAKER_01: I sort of sum up.
[05:35] SPEAKER_01: You know, you hear all the cliches, things like fail forward, iterate, you know, keeping spine stuff, and you're all true.
[05:42] SPEAKER_01: But the biggest thing I think applies to people is the Calgary and the Prairies is that we need to think bigger,
[05:50] SPEAKER_01: and to think bigger, you need experience.
[05:52] SPEAKER_01: So, I think it's always a bit of a focus trying to retain talent.
[05:56] SPEAKER_01: Now, I'm in a diverse kind of opinion.
[05:59] SPEAKER_01: I'd say it's not trying to keep talent here.
[06:01] SPEAKER_01: Just try to create opportunities, and let people let down flow.
[06:04] SPEAKER_01: So, I encourage people, younger generations, to leave.
[06:07] SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, experience.
[06:08] SPEAKER_01: Like this, there's a week, a self before you start to skip.
[06:11] SPEAKER_01: That was incredible.
[06:12] SPEAKER_01: And if you don't fail early on, and you know how I deal with failure, you're going to have a hard time when you're trying to face.
[06:19] SPEAKER_01: Trying to scale your business, so get the experience.
[06:22] SPEAKER_01: But then don't forget about home, come back, and it'd be part of the change, and see the opportunity that we see.
[06:27] SPEAKER_01: Okay, super.
[06:28] SPEAKER_00: Tell me a little bit about yourself, you know, when you're not doing business, what kind of things do you like to do, and spend your time with?
[06:36] SPEAKER_01: Well, for me, I view work a life of one thing.
[06:39] SPEAKER_01: I don't even believe in balance.
[06:40] SPEAKER_01: I think that that's just one stream.
[06:42] SPEAKER_01: And so, whether that means I'm going for run, should shine with some of the entrepreneur, you know, or another student.
[06:48] SPEAKER_01: So, I get involved that way.
[06:50] SPEAKER_01: It's all part of one direction.
[06:52] SPEAKER_01: So, a lot of my life, I get a steer towards, it's just a long-term goal of trying to elevate innovation and ecosystem development.
[06:58] SPEAKER_01: So, that can take to me for many forms.
[07:01] SPEAKER_01: So, it can be through the Azure Active Building Company, so, you know, through a thought leadership,
[07:06] SPEAKER_01: working government for maybe a skim and skate back there, or it can be through sports.
[07:10] SPEAKER_01: So, I think it is not a big belief that sports are a great foundation to learn those team skills.
[07:14] SPEAKER_01: And, feeling from a running background and a volleyball back to myself, I still try to take actually,
[07:20] SPEAKER_01: to talk whenever I can, to put it in a course.
[07:22] SPEAKER_00: Okay, super, then.
[07:23] SPEAKER_00: If you had one word to describe Chris yourself, what would it be in white?
[07:30] SPEAKER_01: I don't know, it's many words.
[07:32] SPEAKER_01: I'm like, white has many choice words, too, to go with it at the same time.
[07:37] SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's hard to put it in me, but I think, I guess, do we give you,
[07:43] SPEAKER_01: a little sense of where I think, I just sort of believe it that you really have just a kind of years in your life,
[07:50] SPEAKER_01: if you're lucky, you know.
[07:51] SPEAKER_01: And it's all about trying to figure out ways to make an impact, and you use the time the best way you feel fit.
[07:56] SPEAKER_01: So, for me, I'm always hungry, I believe a good word, competitive, excited,
[08:02] SPEAKER_01: and if not, then if you don't have to have an environment and change your environment.
[08:06] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
[08:07] SPEAKER_00: In your personal life, you know, outside of, say, Calgary right now, is it any place that you'd love to travel to,
[08:15] SPEAKER_00: that's been time that?
[08:17] SPEAKER_01: I want to, anywhere in the world, just for me, what I like most about travel is about
[08:22] SPEAKER_01: it's different cultures, different people, and that good vibration, and seeing new ways of doing things,
[08:28] SPEAKER_01: approach and problems.
[08:29] SPEAKER_01: No one really comes up with novel ideas ever.
[08:32] SPEAKER_01: It's always as a continuation of layer and pond layer of previous apprentices.
[08:36] SPEAKER_01: So, what I like most about travel is just to be exposed to new things and shocked a bit.
[08:41] SPEAKER_01: So, my travel illusion is through the work I do.
[08:45] SPEAKER_01: So, it's going somewhere apart from opportunity, you get a chance to visit things along the way,
[08:50] SPEAKER_01: and my wife's very much the same thing too.
[08:52] SPEAKER_01: So, we try to get a screen and travel where we can.
[08:54] SPEAKER_01: We make know the focus is on building things to the parries, but through that,
[08:57] SPEAKER_01: I mean, why can't we just create connections with South America, you know, with China,
[09:01] SPEAKER_01: the places.
[09:02] SPEAKER_01: So, I really excited about it.
[09:04] SPEAKER_01: It's really not kind of a few birds on stone all the time, so that's a way of usual.
[09:08] SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
[09:09] SPEAKER_01: So, do you have a daily routine at all?
[09:13] SPEAKER_01: I like to think I do, but the moment you wake up, maybe you thought last thing to go to the window.
[09:18] SPEAKER_01: So, I have a new approach, I'd say.
[09:21] SPEAKER_01: I like to approach the critical path every minute of my days.
[09:26] SPEAKER_01: So, I try to figure out working out the most value always.
[09:28] SPEAKER_01: Sometimes, that goes as planned for the day.
[09:31] SPEAKER_01: You have meetings call us like this set up, other times, you just pivot.
[09:35] SPEAKER_01: But my first reward is being flexible and nimble as it becomes at me.
[09:39] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I guess that's a key for being an entrepreneur too, right?
[09:42] SPEAKER_00: Being the flexibility of being nimble, as you say.
[09:45] SPEAKER_01: It's different styles.
[09:46] SPEAKER_01: I mean, each entrepreneur brings their own favorite to it,
[09:49] SPEAKER_01: but I think what's successful entrepreneur is that it's a ability to work with other people
[09:53] SPEAKER_01: and to complement your unique style.
[09:55] SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, I'm really cracked at certain things and really good other things,
[09:58] SPEAKER_01: but it's all about trying to kind of people who can work with me to balance me out.
[10:02] SPEAKER_00: Okay, super.
[10:03] SPEAKER_00: So, Chris, I'm going to present to you a scenario and just get your thoughts on.
[10:07] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so just imagine this, we're going to drop you off on a tropical island,
[10:12] SPEAKER_00: beautiful tropical island, middle of the ocean somewhere.
[10:15] SPEAKER_00: It has zero technology on there, except for one phone booth.
[10:21] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we're going to drop you off.
[10:23] SPEAKER_00: You could make one phone call back to us to get us to come and pick you up.
[10:29] SPEAKER_00: First of all, how long do you think we would last there?
[10:32] SPEAKER_00: And what do you think you'd do while you were there?
[10:35] SPEAKER_01: I used to, I get to visit my own private island in the city.
[10:39] SPEAKER_01: And I get to go to a lot and that's just a right for area for disruption.
[10:42] SPEAKER_01: I mean, I would probably build a resort to start with.
[10:44] SPEAKER_01: Not going to be too big a big destination place.
[10:48] SPEAKER_01: And with a focal map, I'd say call a merchant ever to come to the island
[10:54] SPEAKER_01: and it's built into a special there.
[10:56] SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, yeah, that's something exciting.
[10:57] SPEAKER_01: Let's stay there for a long time.
[10:59] SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, that's good.
[11:00] SPEAKER_00: Most people wouldn't be able to handle that, but obviously you would.
[11:04] SPEAKER_00: You can't handle it.
[11:05] SPEAKER_01: You can't handle it.
[11:06] SPEAKER_01: The chase of the boat, Merit.
[11:08] SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
[11:09] SPEAKER_00: Hey, Chris, is there anything you'd like to add before you leave us today?
[11:13] SPEAKER_01: I just want to thank you, personally, for taking the, I guess,
[11:16] SPEAKER_01: the flag here in terms of trying to push innovation as well.
[11:20] SPEAKER_01: So, thank you for the time to hear our winners and share the story.
[11:23] SPEAKER_01: I think Canada needs to do a better job of posting about successes
[11:26] SPEAKER_01: and getting the word out there.
[11:28] SPEAKER_01: We hear too much about Silicon Valley.
[11:29] SPEAKER_01: We hear too much, okay, a good way to Waterloo.
[11:32] SPEAKER_01: I love it.
[11:33] SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
[11:33] SPEAKER_01: I can't tell you a bit at the same stage.
[11:35] SPEAKER_01: So, I guess, thank you for your time, too.
[11:37] SPEAKER_00: Hi, here we are.
[11:38] SPEAKER_00: Thanks for being our guest today on Calibri's podcast, Chris.
[11:41] SPEAKER_01: Have a very nice day.
[11:43] SPEAKER_00: Hey there.
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[12:10] SPEAKER_00: See you next time.